by the time you get up to around 200hp, it coulda went to a h22a swap.

I dont know how reliable F22's are with turbo?

 

"is it worth building up an F22?"

Nope.
Get yourself a swap.

 

No.

 

I decided to mod out my F22 anyways, just kidding i hate when ppl do that. Guess ill stick with what I got till I can afford a swap. Thanks for advice.

 

Actually.. Stop where you are. My buddy Chris Bohl tells me that F22A's are the BEST for turbos (of the three models-s, si, vtec) due to their compression ratio.

S/F

 

The f22 may have a low compression but that dosent mean everything. A Geo Metro has low compression but the motor still isnt any good for turbo.....

 

Definatly go for a swap but I have seen some turbo f22's in accords.

 

The f22 may have a low compression but that dosent mean everything. A Geo Metro has low compression but the motor still isnt any good for turbo.....

the f22 is a very capiable motor. I don't see why so many people knock it. Just cuz it isn't a dohc or a vtec, doesn't mean it is a **** engine. Sure, the basis isn't as great as the VTEC, but that is part of the sense of accomplishment when you whoop a vtec or an Si in a race. :bigthumb:

 

I have a 92 lude with the F22 motor. I can't afford an H22 right now, but am thinking of getting an exhaust, pistons,rings, valves,cam, resleeve,bore and valve springs. (one at a time) to build up the motor to take more power, whether it be a big shot or hopefully one day a turbo. Is it worth it? Are there ANY fast F22's?!?

THink of it this way about time you do all that work on the f22 you could have a vtec with some mod's.Labor alone will kill you for all that build up with that motor, just think of it this way you will have to work that much harder to be as good as a hooked up
si or vtec,trust me i used to be in the same boat as you just think
about you need a better starting point having vtec will do that for you.:nono:

 

by the time you get up to around 200hp, it coulda went to a h22a swap.

I agree, after all that work you'd be lucky if you are near 200 hp, and what do you mean you can't afford a H22 swap but, you gonna do all that other stuff, if you gonna put that money into the F22 why don't you just swap???

-Jose

 

I wouldt bother, save up some money and get the H22, unless your goal is too have a crazy fat f22

 

I agree, after all that work you'd be lucky if you are near 200 hp, and what do you mean you can't afford a H22 swap but, you gonna do all that other stuff, if you gonna put that money into the F22 why don't you just swap???

-Jose

Well, any time i have any money in my pocket, i have to spend it, so i figured I would do valves&springs one month, pisons & rings the next, etc.., I'll just have to learn to save my money. My GF has an H22 and I love that motor, except for the low-end lack of torque (not that I can really talk). Thanks for all the advice ppl

 

Well, any time i have any money in my pocket, i have to spend it, so i figured I would do valves&springs one month, pisons & rings the next, etc.., I'll just have to learn to save my money. My GF has an H22 and I love that motor, except for the low-end lack of torque (not that I can really talk). Thanks for all the advice ppl [/QUOTE



Then your going to be paying out your ass for labor cause your going to have to keep going back into the motor unless your going to by parts then keep them aside.

 

Well, any time i have any money in my pocket, i have to spend it, so i figured I would do valves&springs one month, pisons & rings the next, etc.., I'll just have to learn to save my money. My GF has an H22 and I love that motor, except for the low-end lack of torque (not that I can really talk). Thanks for all the advice ppl

Get a bank account. Save. H22.

 

this guy i know has a low 12 sec. turbo sohc civic now its an mid to high 11 sec. crx lol but anyway i guess its the same principle.

 

Ive done a t3 t4 on my f22a1 and I'm running 12 psi 247 whp on pump gas and yes it is a solid motor....But building it? I would say save and do a swap Sometimes I regret the 190 stock hp out of h22 I just had to work harder for it....LOL Then watch tehm in my rear view.

 

for the money u spend on a swap, u can have a faster car with a boosted f22, people doubt the motor, but the long stroke, low compression characteristics make it a nice motor on the street, most of the boosted dyno graphs if not all from turbo f22's put out more torque than horsepower, which is not common at all amongst honda motors

if i were to keep my 4th gen, i'd fully build a f22 and swap out my h23 for it

just my .02

 

I think the h23 and f22 have the same rods. You know how much rods cost? Your looking at 400-800$ just to upgrade rods. For the price of building the motor you can have a h22. Also keep this in mind, you can always build the bottom end, then swap a vtec head later. Once the bottom end is built you can rev it to 8k.

Remember the swap is 1200$+ 250 for ecu.
With f22, you have a smaller water pipe, so less coolant flow, so that means you may have a hotter engine. Personally, i think, if you put the $$ into the bottom end, you can always have a beefy hybrid later.

 

People knock it b/c it is foreign to them.. the F22 is an EXCELLENT motor for turbo.. just go on www.homemadeturbo.com and ask around and search.. alot of the accord guys are on there and piece together their own turbo kits.. thats the way to go..

 

220whp and 260ft. lbs torque at 10psi for the f22, or 170 some odd ponies from a swapped h22


u be the judge of what is faster

 

ha, cmon now, you guys know if he goes turbo, that engine will be trash in under 1 year. Unless he invests in some rods. These are really some Big plans for someone who cannot afford h22 swap. Ok built bottom end, how much are we looking at what sleeves 200-300$ before installation, im assuming install isnt cheap. Pistons, if you get a good deal 200-300$, what else, timing belt, head gasket, theres another 150$. Rods 400-900$. Then assembly and other misc parts. Im sure were looking at $1500+ most likely with no power gain or possibly loss if you build for turbo. Then turbo your looking at a minimum of 1500$ again. Then on top of that, if your pushing that much power, stuff is going to break, how long on that stock clutch? Not long, there goes another 300$.

h22 swap w/ecu $1450. This is a fun reliable engine , with good power.

But im not doggin the f22, with that engine stock, and a h23 trans i ran like 15.9 or 15.7 at Lacr. Thats as good as alot of 5th gens i have seen run. Im sure with a little tuning that engine can run low 15s, well with h23 trans.

The other option is throwing a vtec head on that f22 bottom end. 350$ for a head, 100$ for h22 water pump, you need a h22 water pipe, h22 thermostat housing, h22 headgasket/timing belt 150$ another 250$ for the ECU. Again i guess were looking at about 1000$ after everything, im not sure what the compression would come out to on that engine, but i bet it isnt much lower than h22 since the stroke is longer. But the problem there is that that bottom end wont last.

IMO, most likely the best bang for the buck, swap your trans with a jdm vtec trans or Si trans. This will give you alot more acceleration, it will be a noticable difference, but, there goes your fuel mileage.

 

no seriously, the F22 is an excellent turbo motor.. probably one of the best oldgen honda motors to turbo, up there with the b18b..

 

if ur a responsible driver and u do preventative maintance(sp?) on ur motor, u can have a boosted f22 last on 8-10psi for a long time

now if u spend the time, u can piece a decent kit for less than anything drag, revhard, greddy, or any other turbo kit on the market for any honda motor.

 

i have an f22 and ill say it, no its not worth it and on another note for boosting i think we do comparativley well, id say better than the h22's

 

i'd say this...

if you're not going F/I.... save your money for a H22 swap....

other than that... go for it..... build up that f22.... you'll probably be able to turn some heads.... then again it'll cost you some money... but what doesn't..