Anyone know if NA's (street spec) are good for a daily driver? I want a coilover for the height adjustability factor, not for auto-x. I'd like to be able to raise it up in the winter.
If that's what the NAs are, just a strut/spring combo, then I'd suggest something cheaper (in the US) like a Tokico "blue" and Tanabe Super H (1" drop) or Neuspeed Race (2" drop). Both are stiff springs and should lower and improve handling.SlntSam said:NA's aren't coilovers from what I remember. The NA set is Tein shocks with S-Tech springs. The shocks are like Koni's and have a few slots for the spring perch to go on. Thats how the height is adjusted.
As for daily street use, from what I hear you can adjust the softness of the shocks to be softer than stock so I don't see that being a problem.
IMO if you're not gunna use it for racing I'd go for a GC/Koni setup or GC/KYB AGX or something like that.
The Teins are cheap crap in my opinion. I'm not sure where anyone got the idea they were great, maybe from the fact that they're Japanese. Sorry people, the HAs are a poor substitute for Konis and GC's.
Any product that rusts within a year without being in a salty environment (ocean, snow) doesn't fit that description in my eyes. For anyone who hasn't seen, search the archives- there are pics of what these things look like in a salty environment. I've seen an inordinate amount of surface rust on units here in Texas, which in my opinion is unacceptable.Grant from Toronto said:
I find the Teins to be an excellent system and very well made.
True, but I don't think Koni's adjuster is difficult to use at all. You might not feel clicks but you also get more resolution. Clicks are nice but it's not difficult to set the Konis by any means.Also adjusting the stifness is simple. Although there is a tool included I find that my thumb and index finger work just as well wit no need to pull out the "knob" The other thing is that 6 clicks from hard will always be 6 clicks from hard, not like the Konis where you turn it 'x.5' turns one way or the other.
Agreed. But I've run the regular Konis with 450/375 rates and no problem... excellent handling and no bounciness (dialed in full firm).One thing you have to remember about using a shock spring combo with "seperates" is the rebound valveing. If you buy the Tein NA/HA the Dampers have the rebound optimized for the combined spring. Konis do not, although, you can buy the Neuspeed Edition Konis and "regular" Konis..
I don't see how you can say this. What do the Teins do that the GC's with Konis don't? A little stiffer? Pillowballs that don't do anything on our cars? Considering the hefty price of the Teins, the poor finish (rusting), and the cost of Konis and GC's, the ability of the Konis to be rebuilt in the US, and to YOUR spec, I think the Konis/GC combo is MUCH better than the Teins "dollar for dollar."I did a lot of research and my opinion was, that dollar for dollar, I would go Tein..
I would say the only comparible system to the Teins are the Stage 4 Truechoice System (using custom valved Konis) and that ran about $2500.00 US..
What's a "true coilover?" Tender springs? Who cares? What good do they really do?But with the Teins you get a true coilover with Tender springs...
Did you read this page at all?! There are known problems with the Teins rusting. This is in my opinion inexcusable. They are also unnecessarily expensive. The pillowball upper mounts have debatable usefulness in our cars. The Teins are valved stiffer and come with stiffer spring rates, but on the GC's you specify your own rates and the Konis are good to probably 500 #/in.coil222 said:Are the Teins good or no? I thought they (HA) were the best for the 5th gen.