[99prelude]

I remember this topic coming up before during a discussion of Teins, but I didnt quite understand how the placement of all the washers affected anything. And in the rear Tein's, does the big spacer go on the top or inside the pillowball?

thanks

 

[ThatPreludeGuy]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 99prelude:
I remember this topic coming up before during a discussion of Teins, but I didnt quite understand how the placement of all the washers affected anything. And in the rear Tein's, does the big spacer go on the top or inside the pillowball?

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I think there's a piece that looks like a tophat that goes inside the top mount and then theres a large spacer above it. It's been a while and I'm not sure where my directions are right now.

 

[99prelude]

i seemed to have lost my instructions too...have no idea where they went. I let someone borrow my Tein box and I guess it fell out.

I think you are describing the front ones...or are the rear the same too??

 

[baked]

Ughhh. I hate to think about it. I put my fronts together wrong... after taking pictures and documenting everything. I didn't realize it until AFTER the loc-tite had dried. I amost completely destroyed one shock getting the nut back off. Luckily, with the aid of several vise-grips I did. Just cosmetic damage. So basically, I have step-by-step pictures of how to do it the wrong way...

 

[TimeRacer]

Pretty much you take off everything from the stock shock and put it on the Tien in the same order. Which would be dust cover washer, spring collar, mount (and if it fell out the little center brushing), and the top washer. That should be it.

~Doug

 

[baked]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TimeRacer:
Pretty much you take off everything from the stock shock and put it on the Tien in the same order. Which would be dust cover washer, spring collar, mount (and if it fell out the little center brushing), and the top washer. That should be it.

~Doug</font>

I think you misunderstand.... at least with the upper pillow mounts, there are 3 "Washer type pieces... one thin, one thick and one flanged. The discussion is/was about what order these should be placed in. The instructions are very hard to read and mine actually contradicted themselves in two different photos... thus my mistake.

 

[Ludakris_SH]

Do you have the pillow ball mounts? If so the larger spacer goes on the bottom. If it is the factory mounts. Then you will put the thicker flanged washer then the rubber if they fell out. Then the mount then the other rubber. Make sure the metal sleave is in the rubber mounts. Then put on the smaller washer and the nut.

 

[99prelude]

i got the PB mounts and on the rears does the tall washer go inside or on top? and the thinner one go ontop? that is where I got confused. cause they all just fell out and i didnt see which one went where.

thanks

 

[Ludakris_SH]

are you talking about the spacers? One will slide into the ball mount and the other will not? I think I put the small one (doesn't slide in on the inside) on the bottom on my front. I'm having UPS trouble with the rear. I don't think it really matters. The only way it would matter is one spaces more. So if you put the small one on the inside and lower it all the way down and drive (but why would you) then you may run into a problem with the shock bottoming out at the worst. Also there is not a big difference in size.

 

[TimeRacer]

The install that I was talking about was for non pillowball mounts. The ones with pillow balls... (pulls out Tien instructions)

Front: (in order from bottom to top)

Trust washer
Helper spring
Spacer spring seat
Main spring
Dust cover washer
Metal brushing
Upper pillowball mount
Washer
Lock nut
Valve cap

Rear: (again from bottom to top)

Trust washer
Helper spring
Spacer spring seat
Main spring
Dust cover washer
Washer
Metal brushing
Lock nut
Valve cap

99Prelude: To answer your question, yes it does matter the way that you assemble these. What's supposed to happen is that the "small" washer (about 1 cm thick and about 3-4 cm in diameter) is supposed to sit on top of the dust cover washer (the large washer, about 1/2 cm thick and about 7-8cm diameter). Then the pillow ball mount goes on top of these. When you drop the metal brushing (the one that is one piece but changes diameter half way though) in it will sit on top of the small washer, then the lock nut will lock everything down.

~Doug

 

[Ludakris_SH]

I thought he was talking about the Spacers that come with the upper pillow ball mounts. One is larger and will slip inside and the other will not.

 

[99prelude]

ok i found some pics that were recently posted...

this is baked's car.

you see how there is a washer right under the nut that is about 3/4 of an inch in height. but then in the next pic...

the washer is shorter.

and on THATPRELUDEGUYS's front tein's its got the little washer right under the nut.

those are the washers I was refering to. not the BIG one right above the the dust boot. I am not sure whether the taller washer/spacer goes ontop of the pillowball or inside...

 

[Grant]

Why are those pillowballs all different?

I know the top pic is the rear mount, and the other two are front mounts.. but are they both from a Prelude?

My front pillow ball looks like the one in the bottom photo... but I have the "high" collars for it...

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Grant
95 Black SR

Chairperson, Toronto Prelude Club

check us out....
www.hondaprelude.to

 

[ThatPreludeGuy]

Well first it looks like somewhere TEIN changed the design of their PB mounts. I got mine about two years ago...I'm not sure if that means they are newer or older then the other one pictured.

As for washer arraingement mine is 100% for certain exactly the way the diagram showed. I must've went over that ten times because of how noisey my shock knock was in the rear. I'll dig through my instructions when I get home and have my friend scan them for me. One day I'll spring for a POS scanner

 

[99prelude]

THATPRELUDEGUY, how is the rear arranged? I lost my tein manual somehow so I cant go back and look at it, and my teins are all over the ground in different pieces. I dont wanna get any knocking cause I've never had it before.

Grant, yea mine look like the silver ones too but those gold ones were off a prelude too. and so it just makes me believe that either Tein made the PB"s better or just changed them for the helluvait

 

[99prelude]

?

 

[TimeRacer]

99Prelude: The instructions that I listed are for the '99 model, in about.. August '99 is when I got mine. If you need pictures of the actual setup let me know and I'll go take some.

~Doug

 

[99prelude]

Doug, yes I would realy appreciate that. I just need to see the top of the pillowball mount to see which spacer/washer is on the top.

thanks

 

[ThatPreludeGuy]

99Prelude...I looked everywhere and I know I have it but I can't find it. I moved a few months ago and theres still stuff in boxes in my closet that came out of my basement so I'll look for it over the weekend.

 

[99prelude]

thanks alot