Well after totalling my 95 vtec(please dont make me explain that one) I have 10g in my pocket and I am debating on whether to settle for the si. I dont race and I probably never really will. When I had my 95 vtec I barely even hit vtec, usually just when getting on the freeway. Don't get me wrong I smashed sometimes but for the most part babied my car. This is not a si vs vtec thread because I know which is faster and what not, but are you si owners happy with the h23 overall, I mean is it really that bad not having vtec. Would I be happy going from h22 to h23.