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First things first, don't flame me for having altezzas please. Hehe. They are the 2nd gen APC ones with three circles. I got it as a birthday gift so I put them on.. and I kinda like them so get off my case. =)

Anyway, the other day I was on the I-90 minding my own business.. and then a cop pulls in back of me and follows me for a while. I had cruise set for 70 so basically I was like "pull me over, I dare ya! I'm not doing anything wrong!" Lo and behold.. his lights starts flashing. He went on to say how my lights were illegal, and was real cocky about it too. I told him they were SAE and DOT approved, etc. He goes back to his car and comes back like 15 mins later and just gives me a written warning. He did ticket me, however, for failing to notify the registry of an address change within 30 days ($35). He told me I was lucky and he was being kind for not ticketing me for the lights, which is a $100 fine.

My question is, are they in fact illegal?? If he didn't have that registry issue to write me up for, I'm guessing he would have wrote me up for the lights just so he doesn't look stupid for pulling me over for nothing.

I don't mind being pulled over for speeding because I know I'm breaking the law and I deserve it... but I feel he only stopped me because I'm a young minority driver with a modified sports car.. grrr.. damn PO-PO's..
 

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50 state street legal

earlier models are not sae or dot approved while the newer models are.

only those with the sae/dot number and seal are "approved."

but all are considered streel legal.

the cop was just picking on you. when you told him about the approval he got salty and needed to recover so he slapped you with that citation as a come-back.

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50 state street legal

earlier models are not sae or dot approved while the newer models are.

only those with the sae/dot number and seal are "approved."

but all are considered streel legal.

the cop was just picking on you. when you told him about the approval he got salty and needed to recover so he slapped you with that citation as a come-back.

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They're legal. Cops just love to harass you. Ever seen a Lexus IS 300 pulled over? Me neither.

Find a cop doing some sort of public display of police good will and grill him on the subject. The PR cops at the local car show crumbled, called in the street cops and I basically found out the following:

1. No such thing as an illegal muffler tip - it can't get too big. It can be too loud, and a loud tip is grounds enough to get your car hauled to get examined if you have a cat... (or to have the tip removed if you fail to comply) but that's it.

2. No such thing as illegal Altezza or clear lights - at least not locally. Colored bulbs are usually fine. However, you can get fined for an improper color still with the bulb - it has to be clearly amber or red... not just diffuse-yellow or pink. They need to be bright without being too bright as well.

3. That bull about illegal headlights - xenon, HID-knock-offs, etc. - it's just that - bull.

4. No such thing as an illegally tuned exhaust - the moment a cop tells you that, tell him to produce his testing equipment.



All these are points just to harass you. For some reason, cops around the world have it in for young car owners... and quite frankly have had it in for them since the '50s and before. It's a tradition, probably. I'll enjoy telling the pigs to pike off from now.

I'm thinking of driving around with a tape recorder and getting the officer's names and badge numbers from now, taping their stupid conversations and going to press harassment charges. This is bull.

Oh, you should know though - cops might pull you over for stupid things but if you lip them off, they'll get nasty and write you up for the piddly little things they never stop any car for... you'd be surprised how many legal ways they have to bankrupt a car owner.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spite:
I'm thinking of driving around with a tape recorder and getting the officer's names and badge numbers from now, taping their stupid conversations and going to press harassment charges. This is bull.</font>
Just to let you know, by law, you MUST tell/ask the officer beforehand about the recording device, or you can't use it in court against him/her.

Source: book called "Speeder's Guide to Avoiding Tickets"--read it cover to cover twice


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Really? Well... I thought that was a guideline.

See, it's only a guideline for officers themselves - a gentleman's rule, if you will. They're supposed to tell people but don't have to - at least in Canada. There was a big shebang about a cop shooting some people and his secret recorder conveniently got turned off during the big part of the squabble... A side article explained how officers normally don't carry those unless necessary, and if they do, they usually tell people they're on record.

I think it's only fair - more than fair - that cops don't know that they're on tape. After all, they're expected to be on their top behavior while on duty, living under harsher strictures than we do. No cop is going to be stupid enough to harass you while he knows he'll be taped... but it's a good weapon to use against them when they're out getting abusive on people.

The Rodney King tape was accepted as evidence and that's even more powerful than audio - that's a video tape.

However, I'll go and ask a lawyer about these young-driver-abuse issues when I get enough money for a consultation. Thanks for the warning... I might have gotten myself in some hot water with that


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Yes..cops harass you..it's cause they can.. Not much you can do about it...shoot..you can even get pulled over for having something dangling down from your mirror..

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Isn't VeeTec on this board a cop?

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maybe it was the RICE POLICE!!!!



don't worry, just messin' w/you.


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Well technically, they're not street legal on the lude. All cars have to have an orange light/reflector on the side at the front, and a red on towards the back. That way you can tell which way the car is pointed in the dark. On the lude, the red one is built into the taillight housings on the side. The Altezza's don't have the red light/reflector on the side, so they're not legal. Same thing with the teg. 5g Accords and 6g Accord coupes, however, have that little red light on the side of the bumper, so it's all good with Altezzas.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MrFatBooty:
Well technically, they're not street legal on the lude. All cars have to have an orange light/reflector on the side at the front, and a red on towards the back. That way you can tell which way the car is pointed in the dark. On the lude, the red one is built into the taillight housings on the side. The Altezza's don't have the red light/reflector on the side, so they're not legal. Same thing with the teg. 5g Accords and 6g Accord coupes, however, have that little red light on the side of the bumper, so it's all good with Altezzas.

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hey MrFatBooty would you happen to know if the red on the back has to be visible from the sides? cause i just disconnected the bulb for the clear part of the housing (people might think that im backing up when they see my white rear corners)



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BlueShadow:
hey MrFatBooty would you happen to know if the red on the back has to be visible from the sides? cause i just disconnected the bulb for the clear part of the housing (people might think that im backing up when they see my white rear corners)</font>
White light in the rear assemblies should ONLY be used for reversing.

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well, the only thing that i think is illegal about it is the turning lights if you use super white or blue bulbs. but if you use orange i guess you'll be straight.

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RE: Loud mufflers....I was told that SEMA had a website that you could log Officers name and number regarding modified exhaust in CA. It may be from around the country. Then when they notice a trend of a particular cop giving to many modified exhaust tickets, they will sue him (not the state) in small claims court on behalf of the members and contributors of SEMA.

Spite: you were correct..if they pull you over for modified exhaust, ask him to pull out his testing gear. In CA they only have 1 tester and that is in Sacramento! Now, watch out, because he is going to try and find something else to bust you for!
 

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Cops have a tough job... but still no excuse. I think it's more an issue of them needing more training & familiarity with the local vehicle codes etc. Of course, good luck working that into the conversation when it's YOU who's pulled over


When's the last time you saw a Chevy 1/2 ton pickup with altezzas and modified exhaust pulled over??? There are tons of those out here and I never hear about or see them stopped. Of course, I do see them broke down all over the roads... so there is SOME justice out there
 

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are they ileagle in canada?

what year are legal because i herd something about after a certain year they are legal...

are these legal?

http://www.hondaprelude.com/setups/setupsdsply.asp?id=10608&gen=4&orderby=last_updated

and also whut do u guys think of em?
I didn't liek them b4 but on a silver lude...ME LIKES!!!


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One more thing, would you be able to say take a bike reflector and cut it off and glue it intto the altzeta housing to meet the requirements for the reflector stuff?
thnks your help is greatly appriceated!


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