My 1/4 times are awful!!! Help!

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Guiddy

Discussion Starter · Mar 26, 2001

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I don't know if it was todays weather, a diabolical 8C and damp, or the 5th Gen being a really hard car to hook up!
Either way I expected better than the 16.058 quarter I ended up running! And that was my BEST run!
I am no novice at this, and usually feel I got the best out of a car!
But I just felt dissappointed today!
Here are all the figures...

Reaction 1.194
60ft 2.647
330ft 7.019
1/8 ET 10.500
1/8mph 70.48
1/4 ET 16.058
1/4 mph 89.77

Do those figures reveal anything I was doing wrong? Or should I put it down to the damp?
I believe Santa Pod raceway is on a slight incline too! Would that make a BIG difference?

Arrrggghhh! I expected mid 15ssss

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Etylorcen

· #2 · Mar 26, 2001

From the looks of it you have a really high 60 ft time which seems to be killing you. A high 60 ft time usually just means you gotta work on your launch. You have to do a couple runs before you really start getting the feel for it. Try a certain rpm and if you spin too much try it a little lower. If you bog at the beginning try it a little higher. If you can get that 60 ft time down I can easily see you in the mid 15's no prob. When you were on the track did you lower your tire pressure in your front wheels? Also just for the sake of winning those racing you wanna get yer R/T down too. The trick is to always jump the gun because it takes a while for your brain to register green then act upon it. So the light right before the green you wanna drop the clutch and thats how you get those .500 perfect R/T's.

vabeach_lude

· #3 · Mar 26, 2001

Your reaction time has nothing to do with your final 1/4 ET. Many consider it irrelevant unless you are competing heavily in a certain class.

Your launch wasn't good enough, you need to get atleast a 2.2. I have gotten a 2.1, a 2.2, and a 2.3 on my 60 ft times so that seems to be the norm for 5th gens from what I have seen from other owners.

Your trap speed seemed normal since you don't have any mods. Just get a better launch and I know you will atleast do a 15.4 or lower.

Jspec81

· #4 · Mar 26, 2001

what times did andrew run?

spite

· #5 · Mar 26, 2001

How did everyone else do? How did you launch?

You can't just drop the clutch on most surfaces - too much wheel spin and/or wheel hop. You have to rev up to 4-5k, and feather it - let it go fast enough to avoid bogging (you should produce some chirping and spin), but not fast enough to burn major rubber.

You can easily shave 1/2 a second off that 60ft time.

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Guiddy

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 26, 2001

But that is what I am saying guys, can I expect to shave my 60ft time in such conditions!
I mean, EVERY run was 2.6 secs! I tried 3, 4 and 5k, and had everything from burnt clutch to bog down!
I never imagined the Lude to be such a hard car to launch!
Even with power shifting it dropped to 5200 rpm on the change to 2nd!
You guys who can post 2.2sec 60footers, in that in sunshine?
I tried 25 and then 30 psi in the tires too!

I wasn't bothered about the reaction times as I was learning the launches! I can usually get .5s if I want!
Just concentrating on the car a lot today!!!

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Guiddy

Discussion Starter · #7 · Mar 26, 2001

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jspec81:
what times did andrew run?</font>

Awwwwwwwww, Andrew was whupping my ass!

In that pic he was giving me a 2 sec head start to make me feel better!

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andrewdelvard

· #8 · Mar 26, 2001

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jspec81:
what times did andrew run?</font>

Reaction--- 1.576

60 ft----- 2.692

1/8 ET----- 10.486

1/8 MPH---- 71.72

1/4 ET----- 15.933

1/4 MPH---- 92.72

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spite

· #9 · Mar 26, 2001

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Yeah, any FWD car is hard to launch. Think 'ludes are? Try an ITR!

It's soooo easy to run 17s in that car.

The conditions do look bad, but how did any other Preludes do? What about other FWD cars in your class? Any stock or close to stock ones? Ask around next time you're there.

There's no replacement for experience though. I street race occasionally just to get launching practice. Every weather condition requires a different launch. Now that it's warming up and roads grip, I have to feather the clutch a lot less and dump power in much quicker to compensate.

Hmm... that's something I missed from my earlier tip. Are you adding power as the clutch pulls out?

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vabeach_lude

· #10 · Mar 26, 2001

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by andrewdelvard:

Reaction--- 1.576

60 ft----- 2.692

1/8 ET----- 10.486

1/8 MPH---- 71.72

1/4 ET----- 15.933

1/4 MPH---- 92.72</font>

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Guiddy

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 26, 2001

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ANDY!!!
The scene was set!!!
You could have lied your ass off!!!

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andrewdelvard

· #12 · Mar 26, 2001

But I would always have known the truth...

Guiddy

Discussion Starter · #13 · Mar 26, 2001

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spite:

Hmm... that's something I missed from my earlier tip. Are you adding power as the clutch pulls out?

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Yeah, usual balance of throttle until power settled on tarmac, then nail the throttle!
We were the only 2 5th Gens there!
There was a 4th Gen 2.3i running 17.5s!!!

I think the only things running well today were AWD!!!

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Guiddy

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 26, 2001

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by andrewdelvard:
But I would always have known the truth...</font>

Yeah, but the truth was

Until we met that Golf GTI on the way home!!!

...and you pulled away from the ALFA 3.0GTV

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andrewdelvard

· #15 · Mar 26, 2001

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This is also true...

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Jspec81

· #16 · Mar 26, 2001

based on the times of guiddy and andrew, I think environmental conditions are responsible for the high runs rather than the car or driver. Is this track at a higher elevation by any chance???

Guiddy

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 26, 2001

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jspec81:
based on the times of guiddy and andrew, I think environmental conditions are responsible for the high runs rather than the car or driver. Is this track at a higher elevation by any chance???</font>

I didn't get any nose bleeds!!!
And low flying aircraft weren't a problme!

But the drive there is all up hill!!!

Dunno! How high is Santa Pod Andy?

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andrewdelvard

· #18 · Mar 26, 2001

I think it's on a flood plain...

Guiddy

Discussion Starter · #19 · Mar 26, 2001

ANDY!!! You've got mail!

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vabeach_lude

· #20 · Mar 26, 2001

haha judging by the picture, the track is going way uphill.

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