They just take your credit card info and give you the price before shipping, and say it'll be more than that, but you won't know until they actually ship it. And then on your invoice when it comes in the box, it'll say the total. Not the most professional way to do it. Every other website can list the shipping price and the total price...LilImportkid said:how do you pay them then? if you already have the product after that is when they tell you what you owe them?