Euro R Intake Manifold

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by genyosai:
I'm in the process of getting components in for my 97 Prelude. I have Type S valvetrain on the way as well as all the pieces needed to install the intake manifold from a Euro R Accord (Type r Accord).

I'll let everyone know how things work out... then I'll tell you where I got the intake kit from (unless you already know).
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You realize all the stuff that's needed for the Euro R manifold?

What parts for the Euro R manifold did you have sent over?

Don't worry about secrets. I already have all the parts for the manifold, even some of the ones that you might not know that you need!

Do a search on Euro R manifold, and you will see all of my research on the subject.

My Euro R manifold is being ported and modified as we speak.


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Billy
North Texas Prelude Owners Group
www.ntpog.org

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 71dsp:
You realize all the stuff that's needed for the Euro R manifold?

What parts for the Euro R manifold did you have sent over?

Don't worry about secrets. I already have all the parts for the manifold, even some of the ones that you might not know that you need!

Do a search on Euro R manifold, and you will see all of my research on the subject.

My Euro R manifold is being ported and modified as we speak.


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Excellent!! Here is what I have:

From my Prelude:

throttle body
throttle body studs
throttle body nuts and bolts
fuel rail nuts
injector o-rings
manifold stud nuts
intake manifold gasket

from the Euro:

manifold
fuel rail
all misc. wiring brackets
throttle cable bracket
IAC (99-01 Accords use the same IAC)
IAT (99-01 Accords use the same IAT)
fuel rail studs (99-01 Accords use the same)

The IAC is a 3 wire IAC vs. a 2 wire IAC on the 5Gen. The only car that I am sure of that uses this connector is the 99-01 Accord. Also, the fuel pressure regulator is different. There is also a vacuum line on the IAC that the my Prelude doesn't have. I don't know what it is for. Will probably just end up plugging it. The IAC connector is ONLY available on the engine harness. Have to do some wiring. Also have to port match my Prelude's throttle body to the opening on the manifold... the Euro is a little larger.

So what info do you have that I don't so that I can get this thing right.

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nTG
g5 SH / g3 GSR / E39 540iSC / MKIV GTI VR6 / EF CIVIC Hatchback

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by genyosai:
Excellent!! Here is what I have:

From my Prelude:

throttle body
throttle body studs
throttle body nuts and bolts
fuel rail nuts
injector o-rings
manifold stud nuts
intake manifold gasket

from the Euro:

manifold
fuel rail
all misc. wiring brackets
throttle cable bracket
IAC (99-01 Accords use the same IAC)
IAT (99-01 Accords use the same IAT)
fuel rail studs (99-01 Accords use the same)

The IAC is a 3 wire IAC vs. a 2 wire IAC on the 5Gen. The only car that I am sure of that uses this connector is the 99-01 Accord. Also, the fuel pressure regulator is different. There is also a vacuum line on the IAC that the my Prelude doesn't have. I don't know what it is for. Will probably just end up plugging it. The IAC connector is ONLY available on the engine harness. Have to do some wiring. Also have to port match my Prelude's throttle body to the opening on the manifold... the Euro is a little larger.

So what info do you have that I don't so that I can get this thing right.
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Gee that e-mail sounds familiar, I wrote an e-mail that 99% of this message is taken from (cut and pasted, with some interesting modifications). Where did you get it (does the place have initials IP)? Nothing against you, but I get a little ticked when people cut and paste my stuff without credit.

Do you have these parts yet?

You realize that you will have to source an entire engine harness just to get that connector? I wouldn't do it any other way, it's ghetto unless you use the connector.

Also, some machining needs to be done to the injector ports.

One other thing, whoever you got this from, forgot to mention that we are not even sure that the car will idle with this different IAC, there could be erratic idle issues, it could idle too high, too low, etc.

How much are you paying for this stuff?

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Billy
North Texas Prelude Owners Group
www.ntpog.org

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by THATPRELUDEGUY:
Rough life...

...how has the reliability been on the GTi? I haven't stopped by the VW Newsgroups in a long time.</font>

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My GTI has been withought a problem except for the Window Regulator service bulletin. I never had the "dropped-window" problem because mine was fixed before hand. Other than that, I'm a very happy owner. I was thinking of a Z-Engineering supercharger at one time, but I don't drive it enough to make many mods to.

Reliability on my Prelude, on the other hand, has been a joke. But, I'm a loyal Honda fan and I at least love the 5th gen design. What problems have I had, here we go:

Rack and Pinion unit replaced @ 35k miles.
Tail-light wiring harnesses relpaced (kept blowing fuses).
ABS unit replaced.
BallJoints replaced (after they were replaced for the recall).
Replaced clutch/ignition switch.
Replaced Piston rings for excessive oil consumption.
Replaced Engine due to bad oil pump (lost VTEC @ about 7krpm.

My new 99 engine runs great, still stuck in the 97 body, though. My new problem is that the if the key is in the ignition and the power is on, closing the driver's door will lock the car... go figure.



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nTG
g5 SH / g3 GSR / E39 540iSC / MKIV GTI VR6 / EF CIVIC Hatchback

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by THATPRELUDEGUY:
Shocking! I've only had fit and finish problems with my car...which BTW I find to be enough to sell the F-ing thing at least three times a week. As for the VW that's shocking to me as well. I used to have a GTi 8V and it blew! 13 trips to the dealer in the first 6 months and it had the trans replaced twice within the first 10K...after that I swore them off forever.</font>

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What year was that GTi 8v?? Ferdinand Peiche(sp) (not porsche), has really made a come back of VW IMO. As for the Prelude, you sound like me. Mine has been for sale SO many times. I've had offers (money in hand) for the car, only to let my feelings get in the way... resulting in a NO SALE (talking the buyer out of the deal ).

It's getting a total make-over, now. I'm in process of pulling the engine and all engine-bay components, interior, etc. for a change from Nordic Mist Metallic to Phoenix Yellow. I wanted Sparkle Yellow Metallic, but the UK paint code for that color has no mixing reference here. While the engine is out, the head and euro R intake manifold goes to Extrudehone. Once those are back, it goes back together with Type S pistons, camshafts, valves and springs. The suspension is done, new road wheels are on the way (look like Mugen mf8's, but gunmetal gray). Also need to order the Mugen front bumper, skirts, and rear spoiler before the paint job as well as the jdm fogs. I have the carbon hood for it. After the motor is back in... Drag genIII turbo and new exhaust. Then I'm done with this one



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nTG
g5 SH / g3 GSR / E39 540iSC / MKIV GTI VR6 / EF CIVIC Hatchback