RUBBING. Way to much of it as a matter of fact. I have come to the conclusion that people who say they don't rub with 215/45/17s(especially with +45 offset and lower wheels) do not do spirited driving on back roads with undulations and bumps. Not even with big bumps, the slightest bump in mid turn caused contact with the tire and whatever it is it's hitting(which i shall be checking out ASAP). I was out drving on back roads with my friend in his MR2 turbo last night and i couldn't believe how much it was rubbing. My friend in the car with me actually had his digi video-cam of it and i will get it up ASAP so everyone can hear what i'm talking about. I don't know if it's the same in a 5th gen but in a 4th, if you don't want rubbing and you're lowered as much as i am, get the 215/40 tire size.