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Old 03-01-2003, 02:06 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Great post Jason...it looks familiar!!
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I'm not too sure on this, but wouldn't 215/45/17 be recommended for 17" rims because of the max load per tire. Here is a quote from another thread that I saw that made me think that this size tire would be preferred.
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I think what Joon525 meant to say is that the max load rating on 17" tires are less than the stock OEM 16" tires. However, that really depends on the tire size. Here are the specs of some popular tire sizes: (all of the numbers below are for the Bridgestone S-03 tires, but the max load ratings are usually the same for most manufacturers)

205/50/16 (stock OEM size) -- 1201 lbs.
225/45/16 -- 1279 lbs.
205/40/17 -- 992 lbs.
215/40/17 -- 1074 lbs.
215/45/17 -- 1201 lbs.
225/45/17 -- 1356 lbs.

Most people run the 215/40/17 size, as you can see above, the max load rating is less than stock size. IMO, it's not safe to use these because the front wheels of a 5th gen Prelude (SH specifically) carry around 1000 lbs. each wheel. If you have one or two passengers in the car, you're more than 1074 lbs. at the front wheels. I know that many people have or are running on this size tires on their Preludes, but if it was my car, I wouldn't do it. I would go with the 215/45/17 instead. But again, that's just my opinion.
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Old 03-02-2003, 08:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm not too sure on this, but wouldn't 215/45/17 be recommended for 17" rims because of the max load per tire. Here is a quote from another thread that I saw that made me think that this size tire would be preferred.
i think it's a great point you bring up because i know for myself that i didn't even take the max load into account. however, i haven't heard any stories of people on 215/40/17 having problems related to the load
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our cars dont weigh a whole lot, i mean ~3100 with driver and gas possibly divided by 4 = 775 lbs, im sure most tires can take that
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I'm not too sure on this, but wouldn't 215/45/17 be recommended for 17" rims because of the max load per tire. Here is a quote from another thread that I saw that made me think that this size tire would be preferred.
Good point... max load is definately something to consider, however, I think the numbers have shown that this tire size works well with our car. Also, max load varies with tire brand --> if you are concerned I would suggest you base your brand/model selection upon this factor also....

Also, I can't recommend the 215/45/17's because there have been a handful of people who rub with that tire size... the 215/40/17 is a tire size that has the least amount of problems.
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our cars dont weigh a whole lot, i mean ~3100 with driver and gas possibly divided by 4 = 775 lbs, im sure most tires can take that
Actually the front tires take around 950-1000 lbs., and the rear handle around 500-550 lbs.
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Will it be ok if I get 18" RH Evo C5's 225/35 tires not lowered? what about Lowered 1.25"?
You would have less chance of rubbing if you aren't lower, and if the tire's width is smaller (ie. 215). Personally, I would suggest a different wheel. Or you can look into having the offset modified ---> some have mentioned doing this in the past, but I don't really know the negative effects of this process...
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Old 03-03-2003, 10:27 AM   #28 (permalink)
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If I did get teh C5's with those tires which part, if it did rub, would rub? Is there an easy way to fix it?
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If I did get teh C5's with those tires which part, if it did rub, would rub? Is there an easy way to fix it?
You would rub the wheel well on the outside lip... your options would be to roll the fenders ( )... Or you can solve all of this by buying wheels with the correct offset.
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I just called a company that sells the C5 evo and they said it comes in 44 offset for the lude and they recommend a tire size of 215/40/18. How is that tire compared to the 225/35/18 and is the offset ok?
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I just called a company that sells the C5 evo and they said it comes in 44 offset for the lude and they recommend a tire size of 215/40/18. How is that tire compared to the 225/35/18 and is the offset ok?
The reason they're recommending the 215/40 over the 225/35 is because the 225/35 is wider than the 215, and with the low offset of 44 for a 7.5" wide wheel, you'll run into rubbing problems. The 225 will give you a wider contact patch, a little more grip is all. the 215/40 will be .75" taller than stock wheels in total diameter, so your car will be a little bit higher. 225/35 is nearly dead on.
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So if I wanted to lower it say 1 inch or 1.5 inches which tire would you recommend? And what tire would you recommend if I didn't lower it?
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Can someone sticky this please?
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what would be real helpful, but more difficult to compile, would be a list of all members wheel/tire/suspension setup that do/dont rub, their wheel offset, wheel diameter, wheel width, tire size, size of drop, any other factors I might havbe missed

This thread was helpful to me to a certain degree but it is still very vague in some parts. Good job BTW but this can be refined greatly

EDIT: Another suggestion is to make a section where tire sizes and offsets are put together, then display which will rub or not. What is so vague about this that you say x offset works with y width rim, but will that rub or not rub with 35 or 40 aspect ratios on those tires? Its really confusing sometimes
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It is very hard to list every situation. This is more of ---> look, here is the recommend tire size and offset according to the wheel size you are planning to use.
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that wheel in your post mugenluder looks really familiar.

Anyway...great information
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that wheel in your post mugenluder looks really familiar.

Anyway...great information
haha, you are correct!!! I guess I should have asked you before, if you want I can change it...
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Re: Recommended Tire Sizes & Offsets

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8" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen.
Not recommended without enlarging or rolling outside lip of wheel wells. Some people have had success with running offsets larger than +48mm, but you are taking an expense risk.

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This isnt entirely true. I have 17x8 wheels (+48 offset), and I havent had to do either. I didnt even have to trim that plastic piece. Now I will admit that it can rub ever so slightly depending on how the tire is made (there is this raised part on the sidewall of Kumho 712's that can rub, but I only noticed it because of the chalk on the sidewall). It probably wont ever rub now with the stiffer rear swaybar and increased negative rear camber (the car is lowered about 1.5-1.6 in.), and Ive never actually heard the rubbing. Ive autocrossed on these wheels, had passengers in the car, and even carried lots of weight in the rear (a change of tires, jack, jackstands, cooler, airtank) without rubbing.

EDIT: The one time it rubbed was in the rear, the front is fine.

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Again these are only suggestion that will yield the best, most consistant results. If you aren't rubbing that is great, I just don't feel as if everyone is going to be as lucky as you.

What size tires are you running again? What kind of Spring Rates?
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