97+ prelude shifters are priced at $160 –
this includes (complete shifter, shift bushing, allen keys, split pin, grease, and PSPEC installation tool)
They are ready to install and be used with your stock boot and knob. You don’t have to purchase any parts from Honda like with some of the knock of shifters out there. You can always upgrade to the boot and knob later or choose a different aftermarket knob
Shift boots are priced at $40 –
Polished black aluminum shift boot collar, new O-ring groove keeps shift boot securely fastened to shifter, top grade garment weight leather, sewn to fit center console. Not a universal shift boot. Shift boot collar matches both knob and shifter.
Shift knobs are priced at $35 –
OEM Integra type R inspired design. Fits in the hand very comfortably in two positions. Solid billet 6061 aluminum. Not cast. Anodized black. Laser engraved gear positioning. Powder coated with high gloss clear making it extremely easy to clean and is UV protected and VERY durable. Matches shift boot collar and shifter
Purchase the whole kit for $200 plus $10 shipping!
Why shorten the shifter height? That means you have to reach even farther down from the steering wheel to get to the shifter.
We are only talking about 1 inch here. 1 inch from the steering wheel to the shifter is not very much. 1 inch from gear to gear is alot. The shorter distance your hand has to travel, the shorter the throw. The short throw together with the faster, firmer throw, is what makes such a big improvement over stock. I would be really surprised if one of you autoX guys tries out my shifter and tells me that the 1 inch in height reduction worsens your driving experience on the track. My shifter is perfect for your application because it makes it easier to get into and out of gears quickly.
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PSPEC, not to poop all over your thread, because your product looks really great, and the removal tool is pure genius, but during an auto-x, and open track events, less time between shifter and steering wheel is better. Having to move the hand farther downward to reach the shifter is a big deal.
Maybe we're insane, but something of that height, designed to reduce throw would be optimal for us.
I've already got some peices that provide a firmer, more positive throw, so now all I want is a taller lever, and a *shorter* throw. I'd be happy with a shifter that tall even if the throw was the same, or slightly increased over stock, honestly.
You'll notice every other "full replacement" short shifter for the fifth gen has received this same complaint, from the same people.
Agreed...even just making the shaft an inch longer would be awesome, and not as guady looking for daily driving as the one posted above.
not to hijack this thread, but my solution has been to get a longish shift knob (e.g. sparco's "long" version of the "anatomico") and have it sit a little higher up, vs as low as possible. basically it's possible with shift knobs that use hex keys and rubber shims, vs. the honda thread. i think i got an extra .5" of moment arm out of it, might be able to get a few mm extra out of it if i wanted to.
I'm with alphajesse and billy on this one. Lean by request, would mod our shifters without cutting it shorter, but he had supply and turn around problems which was very disconcerting for potential buyers. Your option of a short shifter looks great. However, people who value the time spent in wheel-to-shifter hand movement, want a taller knob as pictured above. I'll wait to buy a taller shifter if and when it's made.
For all of you that would like your knob at a stock height, just purchase the shifter only and you can use your stock shift knob and boot. All you have to do is not screw your OEM knob down all the way (the threads on the OEM knob are very long)
That way you can have stock height.
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Since he seems to hold some clout here on this board, I'm willing to let alphajesse demo my product.
I'll send you a shifter that you can use with your stock boot and knob. Try my product for 2 weeks. If you are happy with it, and it works out for you, then send me payment for the shifter and keep it. Or, simply send it back to me within two weeks of use + shipping time. The only condition is that you pay for shipping both ways.
I really think that once you try it out you will really like it.
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I appreciate the offer (and honored to hear I have 'clout' on the board), but there are better choices of people to do this test...
There is a forum full of people on here that are auto-xing almost every weekend, try one of them.
I'm sure that for the majority of people on this board, the shorter lever is just fine.
For the people who want to auto-x or trackday thier cars, this is a sort of "one step forwards, two steps back" kind of thing.
Again, I praise the engineering that went into this product, it's obvious that you really did your homework. I'm just trying to illustrate to you that if you chose to make a stock height or slightly taller version of the shifter, the market would be there.
Give me a specified length over stock and I will look into making a small run of shifters with a longer shaft. I get charged set up fees for setting up the CNC and bending machines so depending on how many people you can find I will decide wether its do-able or not.
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I've started a thread in the Auto-X forum to see what other people think. http://www.preludeonline.com/showthr...29#post2102129
Question on an extension:
Would it still sit 'centered'?
Would it have an attachment for the boot somewhere, as a full height boot might look silly, and one that kept falling down would be just as bad?
As for height, if the top of the stock shifter and knob sits about the bottom of the radio (when the knob is completely screwed down.) How about if it were moved so the top of the knob would be just below the top of the radio? That would be about 1.5-2" taller than stock without going down to the car to measure.
Personally, a short shifter is in my plans...but not until after my suspension and a set of R-comps have been purchased. Maybe August?
Sorry to stir this up, and not being a prudent buyer. I was just wanting to know the thinking behind the design of aftermarket parts. It seems (to me), that as the aftermarket grows, parts are just being produced to say you have them, instead of actually having a clear useable function.
(I didn't write that last paragraph to be offensive. I have deleted it and retyped it 3 times...and I just decided to leave it in)
I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are trying to say. But no offense taken either way.
All I meant when I wrote this:
"Only thing is, I havn't received one email from someone requesting it."
is that some autoX guys on here were saying that they would buy the shifter if it sat higher up and now that I said I would make a taller unit, I havn't gotten any serious buyers for it.
Its all good though, my short shifters are selling well for the 5th gen Prelude.
Any way, the deal is still good. If someone can find 10 serious buyers, I will make either a long knob or a stainless steel lengthening peice that goes between the shifter and knob.
I still would really want an AutoX person to try my shifter the way it is.
For everyone else that wants a short shifter, the kits are selling really well and I have plenty more of them in stock, so please check my website frequently as I will be doing alot of updating of pics and content.
Ok. I've never Auto'Xed so I dunno what works better for you guys. But as for daily driving, I have the PSPEC shifter on my 4th Gen and I love it. It has a very positive feel and not notchy at all. All my friends that have driven my car loves the way the shifter feels. I've had mine installed for over a year and the knob and boot are still like new. Very excellent quality product and service from those guys. I'll get pics for whomever wants to see how it looks on a 4th gen. Not too much shorter than stock, but definitely a much more precise shift.
Ok. I've never Auto'Xed so I dunno what works better for you guys. But as for daily driving, I have the PSPEC shifter on my 4th Gen and I love it. It has a very positive feel and not notchy at all. All my friends that have driven my car loves the way the shifter feels. I've had mine installed for over a year and the knob and boot are still like new. Very excellent quality product and service from those guys. I'll get pics for whomever wants to see how it looks on a 4th gen. Not too much shorter than stock, but definitely a much more precise shift.
Thanks for the compliment. The 5th gen prelude shifter is about as much shorter than stock as my old 4th gen prelude shifter. Its only a bit shorter. I'll post pics up to show you guys.
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Here are the numbers. Both shifters are measured from the center of the pivot point. This is the true location of where the height starts. Everything below this point is in the negative numbers as far as shifter height is concerned.
PSPEC shifter - 8.75"
OEM shifter - 9.75"
PSPEC shifter with PSPEC knob - 10.00"
PSPEC shifter with OEM knob - 10.50"
OEM shifter with OEM knob - 11.50"
As you can see, the PSPEC shifter is 1.00" shorter than OEM. If you use the PSPEC knob its .50" shorter than when you use the OEM knob.
So you get a total of 1.50" shorter than stock when you use the PSPEC shifter and knob, and 1.00" shorter when you use the PSPEC shifter and OEM knob.
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I'm really surprised people are grumbling over the extra one inch to reach the shifter.
I've driven in a few auto-x and we almost never leave 2nd gear. At track events, I've never thought to myself "gee, I could cut a couple of seconds if only my gear lever were 1" higher"
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WTB: 2 SH rims in good condition
PSPEC, I haven't sent an email, but you can count me as a confirmed buyer for this setup when you get either the extension or a longer version of the shifter made.
Pspec please update your instruction on banging the rod out of the base as that didnt work for me. I also tryed hitting it with a hammer still no luck. So..I use my jack stick about 5 feet long hooked it to the rod as my buddy held the base with my foot on the base. Took only about 30sec and it was off...
