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Old 11-16-2007, 09:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It's time to overhaul my beloved fith gen, 172k miles has been rough on her but i'm too stuborn to just buy another fith gen. Call me crazy if you want, I already know I am, but I want to try a V6 swap. I've been entertaining the idea for over a year now and have decided on the engine. J32A2 w/six speed close ratio manual and viscious clutch LSD. If you're having trouble it's the 260hp SOHC VTEC from the 03' Acura CL-Type S. I know that this will be a HUGE undertaking and will be ready for it by next summer. For now the car will be going into storage untill I get out of school.

For all the H22 lovers out there don't worry, I love this engine and plan to rebuilt it for a 95'ish Accord Wagon or mabey my 92' Prelude. I know that I can make more power allot cheaper with a turbo, but I like to be different.

I'm going to compile my lists of things that will have to be attained and swaped out later but I am hoping to find out as much as possible. I've also had trouble finding pictures of a stripped out fith gen engine bay. Thanks for all comments. Critism is how we grow.
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Stop thinking about it unless you are willing to put tens of thousands of dollars into the car.

I spent $20k putting a H22 into a EF Hatch, and that's a car with kits for the swap available.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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why not just buy an accord coupe V6?
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Old 11-17-2007, 12:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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if your doing it to be original dont because you wont be the first check honda tech it was done on a black 5g
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Why not just turbo it?

You'll get more power out of that, even if you spend half of what it would take for a v6 swap.
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if your doing it to be original dont because you wont be the first check honda tech it was done on a black 5g
Link please?
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As i stated before I know this is a big undertaking. I already have to overhaul the h22 and my transmission is shot. A h22 and tranny swap and engine bay overhaul is going to cost 8k or more to be about where i was before all that trouble. Rebuilding the exhisting motor and trans to my liking would cost 10k plus and have only marginally better performance from a stressed out high comp or turbo ready engine. If i go the turbo route then there's more time and money to end up with a less reliable engine. I could spend all this money on a new accord, but i dont like the chassis so i would be stuck with a car thats faster, but not as enjoyable. The j32 will be putting out a decent amount of power and torque out of a stock, reliable engine.
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Since when is a turbo not reliable?

If its built and tuned correctly, its perfectly fine.
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Since when is a turbo not reliable?

If its built and tuned correctly, its perfectly fine.

turbo scares me
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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....now that the forums are sold, is this the kind of crap posting we can expect? Do a search.
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yes it is, bc now i wanna hemi in my bb4.
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^screw that, I want the w16 quad turbo in the Bugatti Veyron

Sux doesnt it Erik
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even though there isnt much point of this swap, i would love a 2jz sk2
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As i stated before I know this is a big undertaking. I already have to overhaul the h22 and my transmission is shot. A h22 and tranny swap and engine bay overhaul is going to cost 8k or more to be about where i was before all that trouble. Rebuilding the exhisting motor and trans to my liking would cost 10k plus and have only marginally better performance from a stressed out high comp or turbo ready engine. If i go the turbo route then there's more time and money to end up with a less reliable engine. I could spend all this money on a new accord, but i dont like the chassis so i would be stuck with a car thats faster, but not as enjoyable. The j32 will be putting out a decent amount of power and torque out of a stock, reliable engine.
A usable or ready to rebuild H22 shouldn't cost you more than 2k- with transmission.

The engine and transmission were probably the cheapest parts of the swap in my Civic. All told, the engine side of things cost < $5k and put down 204 whp with a tune (labor and parts.) The motor was still using stock header, IM and TB. Pulling the engine and replacing it with a new H22 shouldn't cost more than $1k in labor if you're not being ripped off.

Unless you can do all the fab work and wiring yourself, a v6 swap won't cost less than $14k in labor alone.

I don't know why I even bothered with a response. You should take this bull**** over to H-T where you can share your "plan" with all the other ricers who can't see out of their own asshole.
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^^ didnt you mean cant see over their big wing?
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while you're at it

make the prelude 4wd drive...

also lighten it by 1000 lbs and you might have something there...
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This sounds doable to me, but it will take a lot of fabbing. Now that's assuming you are a competent welder, can fabricate various parts, and have a good shop/ or at least the equipment.

There once was a K series 5th gen and the k series engine sits completely backwards to what the H/B/D/F/etc series did.

-Engine and tranny
-Shifter assembly from the CL plus cable
-Custom motor mounts and they will have to be welded/bolted in a strange area
-CL ECU and wiring harness
-Master cylinder will have to be adapted to have the same size fittings to work with the CL's clutch lines
-A fabbed exhaust, either a custom cat-back or cut the preludes exhaust and somehow weld it up to the CL's
-Rigging up custom axles that will work with the CL's tranny that will also mate with the prelude's hub. Length issues will be huge

And lots and lots of various other crap that hurts my head trying to justify.

It's not that this "can't" be done it just "won't" be done. The cost/difficulty will be too high for the casual modder.
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