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Old 03-02-2003, 11:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talked to guy with 650hp H22...

I work at a call center and I was talking to this guy and we got on the topic of his WRX, so since I was thinking of purchasing one down the road, but am leaning to an S2000 or early NSX. Anyways asked him about its lag in mid to high and he said that he changed turbos and and did some ECU work and got a bigger downpipe and such so he said it fixed the lag and it now very happy. He said that he had a project car, I asked if it was an import, he said that it was a civic HB with a prelude motor, I laughed and said I have a prelude. He said that it was a H22 that they pulled out of his friends SH that he wrecked. He said that it was a N/A engine and the car pulled low to mid 11's. He said the car had close to 650 horse (not sure to crank or WHP) but none the less was bad ass.

He said The Engine was stoked custom by eagle to about a 2.7 to 2.8 liter. had a 14.0:1 compression and redlined at 13,000RPM
and it no longer had a distributor and had a coil for each cylinder and 4 MSD ignitions, obviously 1 for each spark plug. It had eagle rods and JE piston and darton sleeves. and the Engine managment was done by a company from austraila (sp?)

He said that his car is in either the march or april issue of Super Street in the section that follows the racing. And his car is blue and says "midnight motorsports" on the side, and his buddy that helped him build it is driving and it is going sideways on a burn out and the caption says like "who buddie watch where youre going"

Among other cars this guy had a comptech super charged S2000
that a ford LTD rear ended , he said he was lucky to walk away
for it, also a turbo charged si and a super charged si, both of the latter were civics.

It was pretty badass though, just thought I would share
sorry for the length mods.
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650 hp NA? No way....
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Old 03-03-2003, 06:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The 650 isn't what's tough to believe, it's that stroke and redline. Even with forged internals I believe that to be impossible, that's approaching HIGHLY advanced materials when it comes to the valvetrain and such. My guess is you were getting your leg pulled.
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Old 03-03-2003, 07:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Talked to guy with 650hp H22...

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He said The Engine was stoked custom by eagle to about a 2.7 to 2.8 liter. had a 14.0:1 compression and redlined at 13,000RPM
Yeah, that's a load if I ever heard one.

Even with a 90mm bore that's what, a 106mm stroke . . . . And at 13k rpm, that puts your pistons at about 9,000 feet per second (or more than twice as fast as the stock engine @ redline . . .)
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Old 03-03-2003, 09:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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on your buddy, im sorry but this is too hard to believe. If this was true we'd already talk about this guy some how already in the past. 650 is not believeable, maybe 350 to the ground, but i dont know 650 n/a by me is bs.
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Old 03-03-2003, 10:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I dunno... he lives in sacramento. None the less though even if he was BS'in me, a H22 stroked to a 2.7 has to make some crazy power. It gets the civic to a 11 sec, dont know if interior is stipped, probaly is

I wouldn't mind that engine in my car!!!
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I wouldn't mind that engine in my car!!!
If the motor is for real, not the hp but all the work done to it, than it wont last very long. It's a strictly race motor and would work terrible in a street driven car
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No, and H22 stroked like that would make a lot of torque and start sucking wind at high RPMs. I don't think RPMs like that would even be possible on a motor with that much stroke. Maybe if he had a 4" deck plate on it and longer rods, but... I seriously doubt it.

Good call on the BS flag.
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Hell yes!
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....stinky

in that article about Italy's JAS, they were using built H22s (albeit for endurance racing) that SCCM "said" were rated at 300hp... ive never heard of an NA h22 motor rated any higher.. my 2cents.
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Old 03-03-2003, 10:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Most of the high hp H22's like those that I've seen ahve been DE-stroked if remember right, I think they dropped them to 2.0 liters. Been a while, but that's ringing a bell.
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yeah, the JAS h22s were 2.0L motors, revving to ~9k - the maximum allowed by the rules
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I'd say BS just because of the results we've seen/heard about the H22 engines yielding something even remotely close to that ...

but hey ...

It doesn't cost anything to dream now .. does it .. ?
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yeah, the JAS h22s were 2.0L motors, revving to ~9k - the maximum allowed by the rules
Yup the F20B...well the race version of it...
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THis is total BS.

Ken Wong of KS-R in Toronto has a JDM H22a (Stock Internals) with Bolt ons, open header that runs 11's.

He makes 186whp and runs 11's...

So 650hp runs 11's? Puh-leeeeze
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how in the world can 186 whp run 11's, unless its in a radio flyer wagon????
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heh...imagine a gocart sportin a jdm 2.2, now THERE's a way to die.
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how in the world can 186 whp run 11's, unless its in a radio flyer wagon????
Some big slicks and a gutted 91 hatch


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(Oct 27, 2002 - St.Thomas Dragway)

yeah that's a STOCK header
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Wow I figured it would have to have been something like that. very nice numbers!!!
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For you people that are in the northern cali, he said he ran out at
sears point.

Maybe you can ask him about his 650HP :lol:
I guess I didn't think before I posted, I was just excited about the extensive builtup on it!!!
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