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Old 03-07-2003, 05:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Resonator and Stock Intake

Here's an interesting read for anyone running a stock intake and considering, or already having removed the resonator.

http://planetsoarer.com/resonator/resonator.html
http://planetsoarer.com/resonator/Re...rsAcoustic.htm

I know the guy is talking about this in an SC400, but the theory should match up with the 'lude.
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Yeah, I saw those pages in the past. I agree with alot of it. But applying a V8 to an inline 4 doesnt always get the same results, I have seen this time and time again.
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Old 03-08-2003, 10:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I didnt read the entire article, but he was basically sayin that custom intake will hurt performance. I know his was a short ram which would make a difference, but I have a cai and I deffinitely have felt a power gain. Just my .02
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It's not saying that. The custom intake that the guy had was pretty crude (pvc style) the point was, that with the stock intake, removing the resonator may hurt more than help.
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It's not saying that. The custom intake that the guy had was pretty crude (pvc style) the point was, that with the stock intake, removing the resonator may hurt more than help.
Yeah, I've been saying that for ages and getting flamed for it. Go figure.
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ah, a type-s intake using brother joins in to help out
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Heheheh, how'd you know? At anyrate, I too read something similar regarding someone who had taken the resonator off his ITR and dynoed it. It showed a loss of power thoughout the band.

Also one other thing a dyno test does not show you is the loss of throttle response associate with taking off the resonator. So for those of you that took it off, just say, "I like the sound..."
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Lol!
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that;s pretty interesting. I guess the moral of the story is, if you are going to mod something, mod the entires system. The engineers have optimized the thing out of the factory, so don't go half assed when you start tuning the car.
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I thought it was common knowledge that you will lose low RPM torque when going to a CAI. This could well be in part to losing the resonator which is probably tuned per that articles methods to allow our engines to produce more low RPM power. Since that seems to be the goal with most of the parts engineered on our engines. We however are sacrificing that for top end power. The cold air effect and the higher mass flow could very well trump any bonus of the resonator at high rpm's.
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I thought it was common knowledge that you will lose low RPM torque when going to a CAI. This could well be in part to losing the resonator which is probably tuned per that articles methods to allow our engines to produce more low RPM power. Since that seems to be the goal with most of the parts engineered on our engines. We however are sacrificing that for top end power. The cold air effect and the higher mass flow could very well trump any bonus of the resonator at high rpm's.
That's not really what was being discussed. It was the fact that you lose power when removing your resonator on the stock setup. Why is the relevant? Cause many people out there are running Type-S intakes w/o the resonator because of the myth that running w/o the resonator makes your car faster. I guess their philosophy is "Hey, it's louder, it's gotta be faster, right?"

Also what CAI dynos can't show you is the loss of throttle response when you install a CAI. Why do you think all the Japanese tuners don't run CAIs?
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Why do you think all the Japanese tuners don't run CAIs?
or the allmotor race cars
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oh i see waht you are saying. I was thinking poeple were thinking CAI were making less power since they have no resonator. You are right after reading that, if I was using a stock exhaust I would very well keep the resonator.

lose of throttle response...good thing preludes aren't race cars...whew
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