Prelude Type S Cams...Which Valve Springs??? - Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com
Honda Prelude Forum Honda Prelude Forum Header Right
» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Go Back   Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Driveline Technical Discussion > Naturally Aspirated
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Mark Forums Read Advertise

PreludeOnline.com is the premier Honda Prelude Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 08-15-2005, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Prelude Type S Cams...Which Valve Springs???

I'm planning on running prelude type s cams in my 01 lude. My question is: What valvesprings/retainers should I use? At first I thought about skunk2 or crower. Then I read that you should use the valvesprings meant for the cams or the harmonics could wreck the valvetrain. I know inlinefour.com sells Prelude Type S valvesprings, i'm thinking that would be the ideal. Could I just use my stock retainers, i'm not planning on revving it past 8k. My racing shifts are all at 7500-7600.
I know a lot of you guys out there think that the type s cams arn't worth it. I'm going this route for 2 reasons. 1. I don't want to deal w/cam breakage i've seen to much **** w/crower and skunk two. 2. I want to keep it as oem as possible.
-Greg P
P.S. i'm planning on the type s pistons as well.
precisionelite is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-15-2005, 03:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nashville, TN (music city)
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
wish I had the loot to put in Type S pistons...I need them bad my rings are going....I haven';t heard that much of Skunk 2 cams breaking at all, thats why I got them..i love the gains also..keep in mind Skunk 2 grids their cams from OEM cam blanks! with 11:1 compression ohhhhh nice and a good set of cams your set..

I would stick with the same brand valvetrain and cams....
__________________
97 base 5sp black/Rota slipstreams, 16" 13.5lbs./BFG Gforce KDW2's/Tein SS/Ingals camber kit front and back/power slot rotors/aem pads/AEM short ram intake/Hytech header/2.5in highflow cat/Rsr Ex-mag exhaust/VAFC2/PLX wideband/UR Ultra SSc pulleys/skunk 2 stage 2 cams/springs/retainers/skunk 2 camgears/H23 manual tensioner conversion/ES inserts/clutchmasters stage 3 clutch and CM 10lb flywheel
nuke79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2005, 03:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
Supporting Member
IM LOVIN IT!!!
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,340
iTrader: (1)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
y mod if u want to keep it OEM spec? just drop a whole type S clip in there then sell ur current motor... LSD,cams,pistons,euro r manfold... after said n done in the long run you prolly still make out better then payin staight labor...if current motor is semi low mileage n in good cond. might as well swap it out n sell it n get some $$ back...
__________________
1998- BB6-T (4/15/06 R.I.P.)
2000- VWB5 1.8T (SOLD)
2000- AP1-(SOLD)
2003- 600RR track -Sold
2005- 600RR - Sold
1998- BB6 daily beat around @ 301k
2008- 600RR- Was Graffiti now a custom twist...

JaXx4k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2005, 07:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Hey Nuke,
What is the powerband of the Skunk2 stage 2's?
precisionelite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2005, 07:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nashville, TN (music city)
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
haven't experienced the full range yet cause I;m only revving to stock fuel cut, 7650. but they want to pull, VTEC is way louder and stronger, only after me tuning with VAFC and wideband.....saving for Hondata s200 w/p72 then will be able to open them to 8500. sux cause now my car won't start today...LOL!! need to figure that out first
__________________
97 base 5sp black/Rota slipstreams, 16" 13.5lbs./BFG Gforce KDW2's/Tein SS/Ingals camber kit front and back/power slot rotors/aem pads/AEM short ram intake/Hytech header/2.5in highflow cat/Rsr Ex-mag exhaust/VAFC2/PLX wideband/UR Ultra SSc pulleys/skunk 2 stage 2 cams/springs/retainers/skunk 2 camgears/H23 manual tensioner conversion/ES inserts/clutchmasters stage 3 clutch and CM 10lb flywheel
nuke79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2005, 08:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
Supporting Member
IM LOVIN IT!!!
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,340
iTrader: (1)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
^^ i got s200b w/hondata chipped P28 if ur interested...
__________________
1998- BB6-T (4/15/06 R.I.P.)
2000- VWB5 1.8T (SOLD)
2000- AP1-(SOLD)
2003- 600RR track -Sold
2005- 600RR - Sold
1998- BB6 daily beat around @ 301k
2008- 600RR- Was Graffiti now a custom twist...

JaXx4k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2005, 11:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nashville, TN (music city)
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
PM me do you have conversion harness also...?
__________________
97 base 5sp black/Rota slipstreams, 16" 13.5lbs./BFG Gforce KDW2's/Tein SS/Ingals camber kit front and back/power slot rotors/aem pads/AEM short ram intake/Hytech header/2.5in highflow cat/Rsr Ex-mag exhaust/VAFC2/PLX wideband/UR Ultra SSc pulleys/skunk 2 stage 2 cams/springs/retainers/skunk 2 camgears/H23 manual tensioner conversion/ES inserts/clutchmasters stage 3 clutch and CM 10lb flywheel
nuke79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2005, 08:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
don't make the same mistake i did nuke79 there are 2 different types of conversion harnesses. Obd2a and obd2b make sure you get the right one. www.hondata.com has a great wizard that shows you.
precisionelite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2005, 08:39 AM   #9 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Is it safe to rev to 8500 w/a stock bottom end?
precisionelite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2005, 11:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
There are type s valve springs on sale on ebay right now.

"Up for sale is a set of Prelude Type S intake valve springs. These springs are lightly used and come from a 2001 Honda Prelude Type S from Japan. They still have the yellow paint on them from the factory. You can tell these are Type S because of the square shaped material used to make the outer valve spring. This set contains both inner and outer springs, but there is one inner spring missing. I don't know where it is. You can use your OEM Prelude inner springs with these outer springs. I checked the spring pressure on a machine and its the same for both the Type S and OEM inner springs. Please check out my other items as I have LOTS of other H series and F series Honda parts for sale. I have the Type S Exhaust springs on another auction."

Does anyone know if this is true...that the type s inner spring and the usdm inner spring have the same pressure?
precisionelite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2005, 11:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nashville, TN (music city)
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
OBD2a, thanks precisionelite, I'm not going to be revving that high all the time just want to know I can, and stay in the higher powerband when shifting when needed. When I put type S pistons in down the road I'll go with lightened rods just to make sure everything is cossy, and most def not without tuning..but I guess I'll know what my cams can really do in the upper range when I get to the dyno after my header gets here...(hopefully will be able to get engine management by then or nothing past 7650
__________________
97 base 5sp black/Rota slipstreams, 16" 13.5lbs./BFG Gforce KDW2's/Tein SS/Ingals camber kit front and back/power slot rotors/aem pads/AEM short ram intake/Hytech header/2.5in highflow cat/Rsr Ex-mag exhaust/VAFC2/PLX wideband/UR Ultra SSc pulleys/skunk 2 stage 2 cams/springs/retainers/skunk 2 camgears/H23 manual tensioner conversion/ES inserts/clutchmasters stage 3 clutch and CM 10lb flywheel
nuke79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2005, 05:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
What gen do you have? It looked like mine hit rev limit at 7900 stock. I have a 5th gen.
precisionelite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2005, 08:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nashville, TN (music city)
Posts: 356
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
5th gen ....stock tach is off, by about 300rpms I shift at 8k and is about 7650 on the VAFC.
__________________
97 base 5sp black/Rota slipstreams, 16" 13.5lbs./BFG Gforce KDW2's/Tein SS/Ingals camber kit front and back/power slot rotors/aem pads/AEM short ram intake/Hytech header/2.5in highflow cat/Rsr Ex-mag exhaust/VAFC2/PLX wideband/UR Ultra SSc pulleys/skunk 2 stage 2 cams/springs/retainers/skunk 2 camgears/H23 manual tensioner conversion/ES inserts/clutchmasters stage 3 clutch and CM 10lb flywheel
nuke79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2005, 11:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
Supporting Member
IM LOVIN IT!!!
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,340
iTrader: (1)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
^^ your 97 base should fit the hardness i have i own a 98 base i bought everything from hondata so it shouldnt be a problem from a lude to a lude

=D
__________________
1998- BB6-T (4/15/06 R.I.P.)
2000- VWB5 1.8T (SOLD)
2000- AP1-(SOLD)
2003- 600RR track -Sold
2005- 600RR - Sold
1998- BB6 daily beat around @ 301k
2008- 600RR- Was Graffiti now a custom twist...

JaXx4k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2005, 07:46 AM   #15 (permalink)
Supporting Member
.: :.
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 335
iTrader: (1)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Rev limiter kicks in @ 8 on mine... SS power I usually run 1st into 8grand so I can catch vtec in 2nd gear
__________________
Jim
2005 Acura TL
2005 Honda VTX1800N
xbi0s is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Driveline Technical Discussion > Naturally Aspirated


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:19 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2