Which one would be better - Honda Prelude Forum

Phat8186 · 02-02-2006, 02:03 PM

As we speak I am looking to get a new set of cams. I cant make up my mind to either get Crower Stage 2, or Skunk Stage 2. Any input would help what are u guys running

<h22a4> · 02-02-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phat8186

As we speak I am looking to get a new set of cams. I cant make up my mind to either get Crower Stage 2, or Skunk Stage 2. Any input would help what are u guys running

today I am gettin installed

1. crower stage 2 cams with non-stock idle
2. skunk2 valvetrain and ti retainers, cam gears
3. s2000 TB port matched to IM
4. Greddy - Emanagee
5. BS and PS removal

its at the shop right now

this is combined with my existing i/h/e/cc/p VAFC tuned which net me around 180 WHP last time I dynoed.

dyno tunning coming soon

but i'll let you know how it goes

<h22a4> · 02-02-2006, 03:09 PM

from what I gathered.... Crower STage 2 should yeild more power than skunk 2 on stock compression.....

Gains are anywere from 5 - 15 WHP with proper tuning.... I am expecting to get around 190WHP to 195WHP

Cjanik · 02-02-2006, 03:17 PM

i'd go with crower if you plan on building your engine a bit, expecially raising compression to 11:1 or more

i have crower stage 2 w/ all crower valvetrain, getting it tuned mid feb.

if not, then go with skunk 2, i assume they are cheaper so its just cheaper power but you get what you pay for.

<h22a4> · 02-02-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cjanik

i'd go with crower if you plan on building your engine a bit, expecially raising compression to 11:1 or more

i have crower stage 2 w/ all crower valvetrain, getting it tuned mid feb.

if not, then go with skunk 2, i assume they are cheaper so its just cheaper power but you get what you pay for.

how's your feelings towards the crower stage 2? any noticeablae gains, althought its not tuned yet?

btw --

skunk2 cost more than crower....and it should be the other way around, if you planning on doing more things to the car, pick up stage 2 skunk2.... they are good with high compression.....

DustinsPrelude · 02-02-2006, 06:07 PM

Just curious as to what else you need to do in order to run new cam shafts?

precisionelite · 02-03-2006, 11:09 PM

I've just bought a head that has the full skunk2 valvetrain. Although I want to go with crower cams, can I do this w/o a problem? Also when the skunk2 ti retainers wear out, can I replace them w/the crower ti-17 retainers?

nuke79 · 02-04-2006, 12:17 AM

heard the average time to replace ti. retainers.springs is 30k miles..is this right someone post up...thanks

preludejtstyle · 02-05-2006, 07:35 AM

^^ yes or before. I say 25k, most others say 30k.

71dsp · 02-05-2006, 11:56 AM

Probably the best ideal would be to simply inspect the retainers at regular intervals.

SoCalude98 · 02-05-2006, 02:17 PM

You should probably start by listing your set up, kinda hard to make a blind cam recomendation...

precisionelite · 02-05-2006, 06:15 PM

Sorry guys...here's my setup.
Aem CAI
Skunk 2 IM(not the pro-series)
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
T1R Header (2.36'' collector)
Test Pipe (2.25'')
Thermal Exhaust (2.25'')
P28 ECU with Hondata making it all sing.
When I got it all tuned I hit 188WHP. Hoping to hit 200 with the cams but we'll see. Are skunk2 cam gears good?

SoCalude98 · 02-05-2006, 08:44 PM

Crower 63422-2's are going to be better suited for your application. An internally stock H22 isnt quite enough to warrant anything bigger than that.

precisionelite · 02-05-2006, 09:02 PM

Hold the boat. You think I should get the stage 3's!!!!!!

nuke79 · 02-05-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 71dsp

Probably the best ideal would be to simply inspect the retainers at regular intervals.

what do you look for when inspecting...sorry to jack this thread some..just worried about my Ti..

precisionelite · 02-06-2006, 07:37 PM

h22a4 how does your car feel with the new cams?

<h22a4> · 02-06-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by precisionelite

h22a4 how does your car feel with the new cams?

http://www.hondaprelude.to/forums/sh...ad.php?t=61883

this mite be some help, its from toronto prelude club.... entire thread was regarding my setup, which was installed three days ago...

tommorow, I need to install bigger injectors as well...then thhursday i will have the emanage tuned..... looking to make 200WHP (realistically probably 190WHP)

so far, butt dyno --- car pulls nicely even at 2200 RPM to 4000RPM...more low end torque...much more....but also contributed to this is my removal of powersteering, balance shaft belts, I have a UR crank pulley, fidanza flywhee.....

so car pulls hard even at low rpms....

i'll post dyno results on sat

btw --- going this route be prepared to spend a lot of money..... to make it work properly..... so far i've dropped 3000$ juyst for getting the cams ready.....

precisionelite · 02-06-2006, 10:58 PM

$3,000 how's that?
Here's my breakdown.
Redone H22 Head w/full skunk 2 valvetrain and : $385 on ebay (deal of the century)
Manual Tensioner Swap: $0 Head already came with it :-)
Crower Stage 2 Cams: $500
Head Gasket: Not sure 50-80$ maybe
Tuning: $400
That comes to...$1,365
I thought bigger injectors wern't needed, i've seen people run stock ones w/cams.

precisionelite · 02-06-2006, 10:59 PM

I'd be careful with that underdrive pulley I hear it screws up your bearings.
With my setup I hit 185. It wasn't SAE but it was seriously 90 degree's plus in the shop, so i'm not to worried.

<h22a4> · 02-07-2006, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by precisionelite

$3,000 how's that?
Here's my breakdown.
Redone H22 Head w/full skunk 2 valvetrain and : $385 on ebay (deal of the century)
Manual Tensioner Swap: $0 Head already came with it :-)
Crower Stage 2 Cams: $500
Head Gasket: Not sure 50-80$ maybe
Tuning: $400
That comes to...$1,365
I thought bigger injectors wern't needed, i've seen people run stock ones w/cams.

my actual expenses

crower cams - 700$ CAD (broight them here on PO byt got fuked by border taxes)
Valvetrain + cam gears - 650$
Injectors - 200 - Install 80
Greddy -Emanage - 400$ - Install 200
Labour - 360
Manual Tensioer Swap - 200
S2000 Tb - 150
Portmatch - 100

Tuning - 500

all prices are in CAD and actual