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Old 06-16-2010, 11:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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how much horsepower output?

just got an 01' lude with racing headers, full exhaust kit, AEM intake, and NGK spark plugs & wires about how much horsepower would be putting out does anyone have an idea? thanks......new to the scene....
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h22 have 200 dnt they?? plus the bolt ons? at least 180 or the 200?? or nah?
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h22 have 200 dnt they?? plus the bolt ons? at least 180 or the 200?? or nah?
I hope you seriously don't believe this. Go up top to the FAQ's and look at the dynos and what people have done.

A clean stock motor normally puts out about 150s to 160s. Bolt on's dont do that much. If you are talking about flywheel hp there is no telling unless you had a real engine dyno. A dyno can give you estimated but what really matters is what hits the floor.
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So you guys are telling me that a stock 01' lude as 200hp at the motor but only puts out about 160 to the wheels. With bolt on wouldn't that bring that up to about 180 close to 200hp at the wheels if your lucky..
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So you guys are telling me that a stock 01' lude as 200hp at the motor but only puts out about 160 to the wheels. With bolt on wouldn't that bring that up to about 180 close to 200hp at the wheels if your lucky..
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So you guys are telling me that a stock 01' lude as 200hp at the motor but only puts out about 160 to the wheels. With bolt on wouldn't that bring that up to about 180 close to 200hp at the wheels if your lucky..
I can't wait until you dyno you car...oh wait you probably wouldn't for fear of depression.
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just got an 01' lude with racing headers, full exhaust kit, AEM intake, and NGK spark plugs & wires about how much horsepower would be putting out does anyone have an idea? thanks......new to the scene....

1:The specially tuned stock exhaust on the VTEC Prelude provides a very low restriction gas flow, and unlike a 4-1 header racing header for example, is tuned in such a way that it does not trade high rpm power for low/mid rpm torque. Unless you have done something to your engine prior to the header that results in a significant increase in gas flow ,the gains that you are getting from having a modified exhaust are of no real world significance.Shown below is a picture of the true 4-2-1 header on a VTEC Prelude and an example of the much more primitive headers of the other model Preludes.

Primitive 3rd gen Prelude header that looks like a hunk of metal with 5 holes drilled into it which could benefit from a aftermarket upgrade:




True 4-2-1 header of the VTEC Prelude engine thats more then adequate for any N/A situation under 7.4k rpms.With piston speeds above 4462 ft/min, sustained engine operation above 7.4k rpms should not be attempted without a engine tear down and durability improvements made.






2:The stock intakes dimensions are tuned to the air pules going through it heading to the intake manifold. This intake tuning results in air piling up on their intake valves at just the right time, and through a process referred to a intera supercharging , more power is created compared to a untuned intake.
The only aftermarket intake that is tuned to the intake pulses that I know about is the AEM V2.If your AEM intake is the V2 model ,you may be getting some marginal improvement in top end performance but probably not much over the stock intake because the stock intake is pretty good.

For more information on the amazing , advanced, ecu controlled, stock intake click on the link below.

Honda Prelude VTEC Enthusiast Site

3:Your fancy spark plugs and wires don't really do anything to increase performance.Don't buy the hype! Marking the plug before screwing it into the hole such that the plug electrode is facing in the best possible direction has been known to help with performance somewhat.

Everyones definition of usable performance is different . If your mods can't knock down the 1/4 mile time of your lude below about 14.9s then on street, your modifications are nothing but eye candy in my opinion.A stock Prelude puts out about 156hp to the wheels and your enhancements are very unlikely to produce more then an additional 5hp up to maybe 161hp at the wheels . A 5hp improvement is not going to cut 1/2 sec off of your 1/4 mile time.Unfortunately the mods that you describe indicate that the previous car owner was probably someone who may have given your engine a hard life.If the engine has been whipped a lot during its life, then you just may need that extra 5hp improvement to get your engine hp up to the same level as someone who has the same engine thats not been as severely used.If you see a catch can, or if you have to add a quart of oil with every 2nd fill up, then your engine hp enhancements may be doing nothing more but acting to compensate for engine wear and tear and increased compression related, blow by losses compared to that of a normally operating, stock engine.With out a doubt , the amount of power your 9+ year old engine puts out is dependent on how it was treated from break in up to the the present time so knowing exactly much power your engine actually puts out in its present form is indeterminable for the most part..

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200 hp is what stock 5th gen has to the crank. What bolts on's list in their description is how much hp to the crank you would gain with a already heavily moded engine, not stock. You may may have added say 15 hp to the crank but only a couple to the wheels and whp is what you notice and actually feel. so you really gain very little from bolt ons with a stock engine especially if it has been used and abused like listed by SH DRIVER
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Thanks,for that great info SH DRIVER,all reply's have been helpful. I would say that my 01'lude has little miles to just the right amount of miles for its year and it runs very strong when compared to my friends lude thats a year younger and has been well maintained. And what would be just the best possible direction for the plugs electrode to face?
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Thanks,for that great info SH DRIVER,all reply's have been helpful. I would say that my 01'lude has little miles to just the right amount of miles for its year and it runs very strong when compared to my friends lude thats a year younger and has been well maintained. And what would be just the best possible direction for the plugs electrode to face?

The spark plug is installed in such a way that the L shaped ground electrode is closest to the front of the car and away from the intake manifold .

Here is an explanation by someone smarter then me.


Indexing spark plugs are matter of some debate is the "indexing" of plugs upon installation, usually only for high performance or racing applications; this involves installing them so that the open area of the spark gap, not shrouded by the ground electrode, faces the center of the combustion chamber, toward the intake valve, rather than the wall. Many experts believe that this will maximize the exposure of the fuel-air mixture to the spark, and therefore result in better ignition; others, however, believe that this is useful only to keep the ground electrode out of the way of the piston in ultra-high-compression engines if clearance is insufficient. In any event, this is accomplished by marking the location of the gap on the outside of the plug, installing it, and noting the direction in which the mark faces; then the plug is removed and additional washers are added so as to change the orientation of the tightened plug. This must be done individually for each plug, as the orientation of the gap with respect to the threads of the shell is random

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^that is stupid putting washers to orientate the sparkplugs to face a certain valve.

So yeah race application they are squeezing any amount of hp.

DD cars aren't and therefore this is competely a waste of time and something psychological to the driver.
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bikes != h22 when you want to compare modifications or performance.
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Just use a cobra/explorer/gt40 intake. will be easier on the wallet and flows just as well as any other intake all the way up to 5500ish. actually it flows a bit BETTER than most up until about 5k..I did a 16-mile TT on a road bike, and averaged somewhere around ~280-290 watts based on common calculators. That was a warm-up for the peak of the season which a race several weeks later. Putting out that kind of power makes you go REALLY FAST.
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