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Old 09-09-2011, 03:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dyno video tuning a stock H22 at Bisimoto


A dyno pull of a bone stock JDM H22 Prelude, with Bisimoto V2 header, and exhaust cutout. On board is also an S300, AEM V2 intake and 440cc injectors. Peak power of 196.4whp!
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What was peak HP prior to header install?
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This is not a stock motor.



And it has been argued time and time again.


12G - They don't have any dyno runs prior to the installation of this header. The motor has mild modifications with a tune. If it were a 100% stock H22a or H22a4 motor (in a prelude) with before and after dyno results than it would make many Prelude owners happy. But they have yet to do so since the day they started producing this header.
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This is not a stock motor.



And it has been argued time and time again.


12G - They don't have any dyno runs prior to the installation of this header. The motor has mild modifications with a tune. If it were a 100% stock H22a or H22a4 motor (in a prelude) with before and after dyno results than it would make many Prelude owners happy. But they have yet to do so since the day they started producing this header.
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Any Bisimoto claims are hard to believe for me now.
It seems like they think a ati damper can make 45whp. I asked other highly respected people shops that sell the same damper and they tell me not to expect any power gains no matter how much power you're making but it will make the engine last longer. This is just one example of bisimoto.
There is also another header debate on HT that their "custom" header makes the same power as a replica which is half the price.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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everything always appears to be "cutting edge" based on the advertisement they give.....yet it turns out to be the same cutting edge technology everyone else already has.
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This number is believable, since it is open exhaust. Impressive numbers if it is a stock JDM H22 imo.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This number is believable, since it is open exhaust. Impressive numbers if it is a stock JDM H22 imo.
His mods:
-Type s motor and tranny swap from Hmotors
-M2Z4 LSD Tranny
-Explicit speed performance motor mounts
-Apexi Grounding kit
-Bisimoto header
-AEM V2 intake
-QTP Electric cutout in place of cat
-Skunk 2 cat back exhaust
-Fidanza Fly wheel
-ACT pressure plate and 6 puck clutch
-NGK spark plug wires
-Hondata s300
-Balance shafts disabled
-Pspec Short throw shifter
-440 RC Injectors
-Golden Eagle Fuel Rail

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If the site blocks out part of the name, it's prelude p o w e r

If there was a simple before and after dyno (even if it was tuned on both) it would be of better use to us than throwing it on the car and doing a pre tune run and an after tune run - on the same header. Where's the comparison vs stock? We need proof of the actual average gains from the header, so a simple before and after is all anyone is asking for- It's not a hard thing to do but yet nobody has produced one.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Please help!!!!!!

i just bought a 1998 prelude with all kind of mods but doesnt run well!!!!!!

here is a list of mods
Eibach pro kit lowered 1" rear 1 1/2" front
DC sports strut bar (rear only)
DC sports 4-2-1 headers
High flow Cat
Tanabe cat back with low pro/high flow muffler
I.T.B.'s 50mm per cylinder (individual throttle bodies)
original intake manifold and AEM cold air intake included
fuel rail with adjustable fuel regulator
RC engineering 440cc fuel injectors
Walbro 650lph fuel pump
high output ignition coil
high output plug wires
NGK 4 prong spark plugs

Engine:
less than 1500 miles since rebuild
Brian Crower stroker kit: from 2.2L to 2.49L
-CP pistons high compression (11.5 : 1)
-89mm bore x 100mm stroke (darton sleeves) 55mm mains
-ACL race bearings
-billet crank
- H-beam BC625+ rods
Head ported and polished for best performance with natural aspiration by Abacus Racing
Race Engineering valves with 3 angle machining
titanium springs and retainers
Skunk2 stage 2 pro series cams
AEM adjustable cam gears
Kevlar reinforced timing belt
hardened oil pump gears
H23 manual timing belt tensioner

Hondata s300 piggy back ECU


it wont idel and im not sure if all the vac lines are hooked up right
can some one please help!!!

need a map or something i dont want to pay $1000's to fix


thanks and god bless
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Posting this in the 5th gen section would give you more results vs thread jacking an already crapy thread.

Well, for starters you're using ITB's - which doesn't give you much room to adjust. That car won't pass your typical cali inspection from what I know (don't live there, don't take my word for it).

(and that header is junk)


That's alot of work done to the motor, if you're really running it without the proper map than you need it tunes ASAP. It will cost a couple hundred if it needs a tune, or a couple thousand if you mess up the motor. Rule of thumb: never buy someone else's project. You never know what you're getting yourself into. (unless he had documented everything and you are in contact with the shop that did the work)

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Old 01-30-2012, 07:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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His mods:
-Type s motor and tranny swap from Hmotors
-M2Z4 LSD Tranny
-Explicit speed performance motor mounts
-Apexi Grounding kit
-Bisimoto header
-AEM V2 intake
-QTP Electric cutout in place of cat
-Skunk 2 cat back exhaust
-Fidanza Fly wheel
-ACT pressure plate and 6 puck clutch
-NGK spark plug wires
-Hondata s300
-Balance shafts disabled
-Pspec Short throw shifter
-440 RC Injectors
-Golden Eagle Fuel Rail

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Bisimoto dyno results with Bisimoto V2 header - Honda Prelude Forum : Honda Prelude Forums

If the site blocks out part of the name, it's prelude p o w e r

If there was a simple before and after dyno (even if it was tuned on both) it would be of better use to us than throwing it on the car and doing a pre tune run and an after tune run - on the same header. Where's the comparison vs stock? We need proof of the actual average gains from the header, so a simple before and after is all anyone is asking for- It's not a hard thing to do but yet nobody has produced one.
So there's your answer, it's a Type S motor. That alone is going to account for 15whp.
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So there's your answer, it's a Type S motor. That alone is going to account for 15whp.




2 month bump for the answer to what?
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2 month bump for the answer to what?
Ya it's old, but so are almost all the posts in NA. The point was that the header wasn't doing anything special compared to any other header, but I think you just wanted to ras me
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Ya it's old, but so are almost all the posts in NA. The point was that the header wasn't doing anything special compared to any other header, but I think you just wanted to ras me


This is true, it is pretty dead around here.


lol no ras here - thought maybe I missed something, that's all.


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