Blue and Red Top H22a Catalog - Honda Prelude Forum

Satan_SRV · 09-08-2003, 11:50 PM

I made this for a post on H-T, thought you guys mught find it useful

Blue

F20B
Accord/Troneo Sir and Sir-T (CF4) (JDM)
200ps/145tq
notes: Type-S head and cams, 2.0L block 11:1 85mm pistons

H23A VTEC
Accord Sir Wagon (CH9) (JDM)
200ps/163tq
notes: 10.6:1 CR, open deck likely regular H22a head.

Red

H22A (Euro-R Spec)
Accord Euro-R (CL1) (JDM)
notes: Type-S head and cams 11:1 CR, single stage manifold, T2W4 short geared tranny with LSD

Click here for more pics

H22A7
Accord Type-R (CH1) (Europe)
Notes: Same as Euro-R above, 212hp, dfferent header, tranny code is U2Q7 and has a shorter 5th gear.

H22A (S-spec)
Prelude Type-S and Sir spec-S (BB6)
Notes: Type-S head and cams 11:1 CR, dual stage IM, ATTS (S) or regular geared LSD tranny (Sir)
http://www.honda.co.jp/PRELUDE/2000/

Type-S

School is adjourned :P

EDIT: by Artifex on 09/14/2006, fixed broken links

Anonymous_Luder · 09-09-2003, 12:43 AM

very informative, great pics. Thanks

4bidden · 09-09-2003, 01:02 AM

Nice job, but one correction.

The H22A7 puts out 220ps, correct?

That equals 216hp, not 212.

White98SH · 09-09-2003, 01:18 AM

kick ass post! thanks!!

Satan_SRV · 09-09-2003, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4bidden
Nice job, but one correction.

The H22A7 puts out 220ps, correct?

That equals 216hp, not 212.

it doesn't put out 220ps I guess...ask anyone in the UK and it's advertised as 212hp...I know it's weird but so is Europe

Jon Like Wh0a · 09-10-2003, 12:42 AM

wow, that's cool as hell

wish they came out with accords that cool in the states

pearl type sh · 09-10-2003, 08:19 AM

nice post joel.

ludikris · 09-10-2003, 08:23 AM

Very nice Joel. Perhaps this could be FAQ'd for JDM/EDM info.

axion68 · 09-10-2003, 09:23 AM

doesn't one of the accords have a 6 speed tranny?

yohan420 · 09-10-2003, 10:25 AM

Know whats just sad as hell??? ... USDM and Canada ... We get screwed. They have 1 piece headlights, better rims, faster cars ...

Where's my frickin accord sir-t wagon!#*%*!% ??? I need somethin to take the kids to soccer in and go camping at blazing speeds ... damn ...

Satan_SRV · 09-11-2003, 10:48 AM

No the

Accord Sir F20B has an auto tranny
Accord Sir Wagon H23A has an auto tranny

Accord Sir-T F20B
5 speed T2T4 tranny w/ LSD
3.285
1.956
1.344
1.034
0.787
4.266

Accord Type-R H22A7
5-speed U2Q7 Tranny w/ LSD
3.285
2.090
1.481
1.071
0.870
4.266

Accord Euro-R H22A ( I have one of these)
5-speed T2W4 Tranny w/ LSD
3.285
2.090
1.481
1.071
0.812
4.266

The Type-S and Sir S-Spec have the same ratios as a fifth gen

Intersting comparison of the power curves of the Euro-R and ATR power bands, the ATR was 212hp for sure

Cooool

93accordEX · 09-11-2003, 11:09 AM

cool. wagon also has awd as an option.

Satan_SRV · 09-11-2003, 12:28 PM

not on the H23A VTEC I don't think

irishpilot · 09-11-2003, 12:50 PM

For the accord type R vs accord Euro R

which 5th gear would yield a higher topspeed if there was no fuel cutoff.

What relationship does the final drive have?

Satan_SRV · 09-11-2003, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by irishpilot
For the accord type R vs accord Euro R

which 5th gear would yield a higher topspeed if there was no fuel cutoff.

What relationship does the final drive have?

If there was no fuel cutoff? Well then the trannies could keep spinning until the engines and trannies explode....

Assuming the same rev limit the lower the gear ratio assuming the same final drive will have a higher top speed.

Theorectical top speed for the Euro-R at 8000 is 164MPH (I have this one , while the ATR is 149mph same as a 4th gen VTEC...

It's the preude S model that has the longest ear...the 5th gear if on an H22a engine could hit 170mph

93accordEX · 09-12-2003, 09:13 AM

actually 176

btw I've finally figured out this whole wagon thing and why everyone is always so confused. All 6th gen wagons have h23 vtec engines. They only make like 156ish hp. those can be had in awd. The sir introduced in 99 has a different h23 vtec producing the 197 hp. and you're right, that model cant have awd.

http://www.cb7tuner.com/h22a4thgen.wmv

Satan_SRV · 09-12-2003, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 93accordEX
actually 176

btw I've finally figured out this whole wagon thing and why everyone is always so confused. All 6th gen wagons have h23 vtec engines. They only make like 156ish hp. those can be had in awd. The sir introduced in 99 has a different h23 vtec producing the 197 hp. and you're right, that model cant have awd.

http://www.cb7tuner.com/h22a4thgen.wmv

Sorry but I'm going to have to disagree with you.

All the other engines were F23A VTEC motors, same as the 6th gen 4cyl accord, JDM one making 157ps or whatever. they were 86mm bore x97mm stroke. See honda Japan's website, it lists the engine and the AWD models.

http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto...ac397-042.html

The H23A VTEC was introduced only for the SiR Wagon in 1999.

93accordEX · 09-12-2003, 10:13 AM

umm yea I think I was lying. lol. I got it from that honda world news site but I think i read there chart wrong. went back and looked and it doesnt actually say h23 vtec, just 2.3 vtec which would obviously make sense then that it would be the f23. I think... but I am going to keep searching cause I could have sworn I saw last night somewhere when I was searching that it was called the h23... which would be wierd if it was cause that would mean it would be an f23 with just a different name. then again they like to do that sometimes. maybe im just going crazy.

Satan_SRV · 09-12-2003, 11:09 AM

Well the link I posted is Honda's factbook, AKA THE FACTS

LudEnthusiast · 10-11-2003, 10:03 PM

Holy christ on that Type S video