h22bomb

I was looking at intake manifolds, but what I saw was a Skunk 2 intake manifold actually lose hp and tq on the dyno.

So I have a full pacesetter catback exhaust and the stock header, a bomz short ram intake, and I eliminated the balance shaft belt and AC to kill some rotating mass.

I am looking for some cost effective ways to gain some low end TQ, thinking Throttle body, header. Not sure what type of header to use. Maybe cams down the road, again not sure what to use for some low end grunt.

h22jdmvtec

i have a skunk2 intake manifold with the stock throttle body...and i noticed some difference in power...especially through vtec..but you have the idiotic cel when u have the skunk2 im cause of the egr valve...

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spin_r_g

Nothing cheap makes decent power on the h22.

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h22bomb

Ha Ha yea thanx ... Iguess. Im thinking about throttle body, decent header, And eliminating the butterfly's in the intake manifold.

Question about butterfly's, will I lose torque if I take them out because Torque is what I am looking for!

spin_r_g

Yes you will lose torque. You can keep throwing mods at this motor but it mostly a lost cause. I don't know how to tell this to you but if you want low end torque you bought the wrong car. Small displacement motors rev high and make power up there. If you want to see a huge jump in low end torque on this motor then super charge it. Otherwise looking into something with a v8.

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nordic97mist

Hytech replica header. Makes decent power for not a fortune

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h22bomb

I am aware that 4 cylinders do not make much torque, especially anything with vtec, am not an idiot. I am just looking to improve the torque in an attempt to balance the power output slightly better along the whole rpm range.

Please do not ever assume someone is an idiot.

h22bomb

Thanx man, that's actually one of the headers I've be looking at. The Hytech replica, and also the tri-y replica.

spin_r_g

I never implied you were an idiot. Your first post clearly states you want low end torque and you want it cost effective. No where do you mention you want to balance power through out the rpm range. Even what you describe in your previous post isn't very plausible. All the mods you do will not balance the power it will always be biased in high end. Which it seems like you already know. This brings us back to the point I made in the my other post. No bolt on simple mods are going to give you a boost in low end torque to the point where it's balanced.

But hey go ahead and try.

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petern101

No but we can assume that you really don't know what you're talking about (and that's not a bad thing sometimes, you got to start somewhere)

FYI the Mistu Evo is 4 cylinders and has variable valve timing (mivec or something like that). I wouldn't say that engine doesn't make torque

Which comes to mind, maybe you just need to turbo your car?

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boymeetsfence

My buddy's GTI is 2.0 liters, smaller than the H22, and he makes 280 tq with his tuning, it can be done, just not cheap. Agreeing with peter, I'd look into F/I

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madcatz

my Scoob is 4 cyl and I make 230 tq. (on a boost leak) lol

4 Cyl cars can make torque....just not NA....lawlz

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AllMotorBB6

if you want torque, you have to add displacement aka make the motor bigger.

For one, your intake manifold is not helping you. The plenum is large and mostly useful only at higher rpm. Not only that, but anything you do that alters the way the engine breathes, you must compensate for it via ECU tuning.

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