anyone running crower stage 3 cams on street driven lude?
my next mod is cams i think and i was going with stage 2 crowers but i wanted to know if anyone ran the stage 3's and if the stage 3's are suitable for street also....
thanks
yeah.....
so listen, if i got stage three which i want due to the nice power numbers you put down... i would need to go higher compression?
what compression is the type s pistons?
also i dont have a lot of cash to work with, i was thinking cams and tuning..... thats why i originally was thinking stage 2 crowers which better springs\retainers, and cam gears
well for the stage 3's youre going to need high compression pistons to make the most out of the cams, maybe a lil higher than type-s pistons, but dont quote me on that
the stage 2 will give you good gains
i would go with upgraded springs/retainers, cam gears, dyno tuning and if you have a VAFC get that tuned as well
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no but IIRC, NXLude had to rebore or errr hone(the proper terminology escapes me at the moment)to put his Type-S pistons in
but you dont have to resleeve with them
hes running the type s with stage 2 from crowers and NAWZZZZ yO! but hes still breaking it in
you can contact him for more info
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Dont get stage 3 if your prelude is to be a daily driver. In fact, if i were you I would get the stage 2 crower cams with the stock idle lobe. (if you want a smooth daily driver)
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With good tuning I don't see why you can't run a stage 3 cam...I do...I just idle a little higher, big deal.
Define smooth? I mean my car pulls through the non-VTEC hard...there's no mistaking it for a stock car...so if smooth daily driver you mean quiet and slow, yeah crower stage 3 cams ain't it.
i dont want it to stall at lights....
i can deal with the car idle lopey or anything like that, im not worried about having a luxury car that others enjoy driving 13 hours in you know?
pulling hard as hell through non vtec is exactly what i want!!!....
i want to pull harder even when not WOT and VTECing all over the place....
Satan what would you recomend the CR for stage 3's??
and what kinda of fuel tuning? u r runing pump gas i am assuming.
does the compression need to be raised or is that just to maximize the potential? like could i run the cams with fuel tuning and stock CR and be ok for a while?
With good tuning I don't see why you can't run a stage 3 cam...I do...I just idle a little higher, big deal.
Define smooth? I mean my car pulls through the non-VTEC hard...there's no mistaking it for a stock car...so if smooth daily driver you mean quiet and slow, yeah crower stage 3 cams ain't it.
define tuning-what u did and what else ur running with the stage 3s....gears,springs,valves,retainers....what kind specifically im going to buy soon so please help me out i have a 5th gen....
did you read the link i gave you....
supposedly you will have idle problems and not maximize the potential of the cams without raising the compression, which is my problem too.
so i am thinking of type-s pistons which will raise the CR
Originally posted by LuDe tEkNiQ With good tuning I don't see why you can't run a stage 3 cam...I do...I just idle a little higher, big deal.
Define smooth? I mean my car pulls through the non-VTEC hard...there's no mistaking it for a stock car...so if smooth daily driver you mean quiet and slow, yeah crower stage 3 cams ain't it.
define tuning-what u did and what else ur running with the stage 3s....gears,springs,valves,retainers....what kind specifically im going to buy soon so please help me out i have a 5th gen....
I had a custom chipped techtom ecu and v-afc. The timing has been done. Skunk2 gears, JUN Vavlesprings and retainers.
5th gen 4th gen it doesn't matter. I still don't recommend a stage 3 cam unless you have a compression ration over 11:1 at least 11.5 if you ask me. Without a CR that high the high lift and duration will bleed out a lot of your air making your dynamic compression low, which makes less power
what are your thoughts on stage 2 crowers and type-s pistons for a good street driver and power boster?
you said the vtec lobes werent that different it was more the non vtec lobes, so would you also need higher compression than type-s pistons for that also?
what sleeve and piston would you recomend with stage 3's, because all in all i dont think i would be happy unless it pulled alot harder when i was under vtec just cruising around
thanks
I ran stage 2s with stock compression ratio. I might have a whole h22 head for sale with stage 2 cams, duel stacked springs, ti. retainers, and ferrea valves. The guy that wanted it hasnt shown and if i dont hear from him today, its up for sale again. I'm selling it for just a little more than the cost of the cams alone. Oh yea, the parts on the head have around 3,500 miles on them.
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