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this guy that just crashed his lude , order the Unorthodox crank Pully and now is suck with it and wants to sell it to me... Im just wondering if this is a good idea or not...becuz i remeber one of the memebers f*ck sumthing up in his car becuz of the pulley, is that true? Do you guy remember what the problem was? thanks
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there are several preludeonline members with UR brand the UR crank pulley with more than 30k, 50k, even some with over 100k.. running fine.. there has yet to be one shred of EMPERICAL EVIDENCE that UR.. and i say UR ..solid crank pulleys do not ruin h22a4's.. infact not one SPUN bearing from a h22a1 or h22a4 using a UR pulley.. so.. use the search and keep that in mind.. nice tq increase.. a mod you can really notice too...
Yeah, but you have NO proof that it doesn't cause damage either. Have one of those guys tear down their bottom ends and see what they find, then we will know something about the UR crank pulley.
You guys will believe what you want to believe regardless of what others tell you, I don't know why I waste your time and mine by arguing about this.
Originally posted by 71dsp Yeah, but you have NO proof that it doesn't cause damage either. Have one of those guys tear down their bottom ends and see what they find, then we will know something about the UR crank pulley.
You guys will believe what you want to believe regardless of what others tell you, I don't know why I waste your time and mine by arguing about this.
do you know when they are gonna make one with the a harmonic damper? Thats the only way I would change my crank puley...
I had one on my '99 Accord Cpe. and didn't have any probelms what so ever. It did increase power though, I will give you that.
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Im not going to buy, becuz if their is any chance of it ruin my motor , im not going to risk the chance's...........then what do you guys think of the AEM pulley set , is it worth the money...or not
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Originally posted by 98LudeChris then what do you guys think of the AEM pulley set , is it worth the money...or not
I like it. It's given me decent low end (haven't dynoed it yet)...definitely much more responsive. My headlights dim slightly when I'm idling, but all the accessories work just fine.
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Originally posted by 98LudeChris Im not going to buy, becuz if their is any chance of it ruin my motor , im not going to risk the chance's...........then what do you guys think of the AEM pulley set , is it worth the money...or not
Good call. If you want more info on the pulley, do a search on what Billy and I have wrote on it, there is plenty. He has the engine "proof" everyone is looking for and I wrote up some technical posts.
The AEM pullies are pretty good. I am very happy with mine and the I dont have any side effects that I did not notice before they went on since lights do dim at idle arleady...
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people on this board put cams, diffrent pistons, TURBOS, etc on their ludes here.. evreyone says yes thats good and this is good.. hacking up their ecu's left and right.. look.. until one PERSON on this board gives evidence of a UR crank pulley causing damage to a h22.. then there is no proff that a UR pulley can do this.. improperly installed clutches, and poor flywheel installation.. can do this also.. .. so waste you money on the AEM's or pay and wait forever for a fisher pulley.. that may or may not ever get to you.. but you will pay for it.. even if you cancel your order.. so you can get a UR pulley and drive fine just as evreyone else with UR pulley has done.. or you can decide that you will not use a product based on no evidence about it..
originally posted by 71dsp "You should see the crank bearings I have after using a solid crank pulley after 10k miles. Destroyed the #1 and #2 bearings, slightly galled the crank, and ruined the oil pump. That's enough for me to not recommend using one."
isn't that "evidence?" but in any case, there's evidence and there's common sense.
we remove a lot of the things honda put in our cars, but only when knowing exactly what is lost. removing your resonator makes the car louder, honda put it there to quiet certain types of intake resonance. removing your catalytic converter will free up power but make your car smoggy (and give you CELs unless you do something about it). what do you think removing the dampening pulley will do? or do you think honda put it there for "no reason?" there isn't anything in a car for "no reason."
and the aem pullies are not a waste of money, they're cheap and almost everyone has noticed good across the board gains with them. we *know* that they underdrive your accessories, and we know what the side effects of that are. every mod is a trade-off...
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Originally posted by HoNdAHaXoR people on this board put cams, diffrent pistons, TURBOS, etc on their ludes here.. evreyone says yes thats good and this is good.. hacking up their ecu's left and right.. look.. until one PERSON on this board gives evidence of a UR crank pulley causing damage to a h22.. then there is no proff that a UR pulley can do this.. improperly installed clutches, and poor flywheel installation.. can do this also.. .. so waste you money on the AEM's or pay and wait forever for a fisher pulley.. that may or may not ever get to you.. but you will pay for it.. even if you cancel your order.. so you can get a UR pulley and drive fine just as evreyone else with UR pulley has done.. or you can decide that you will not use a product based on no evidence about it..
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steve Papadakis (sp?) has a 8 second H22 car that gets torn down God-knows-how-often. If you look at a picture of his engine, you will see that he has the stock crank pulley on there.
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Originally posted by HoNdAHaXoR people on this board put cams, diffrent pistons, TURBOS, etc on their ludes here.. evreyone says yes thats good and this is good.. hacking up their ecu's left and right.. look.. until one PERSON on this board gives evidence of a UR crank pulley causing damage to a h22.. then there is no proff that a UR pulley can do this.. improperly installed clutches, and poor flywheel installation.. can do this also.. .. so waste you money on the AEM's or pay and wait forever for a fisher pulley.. that may or may not ever get to you.. but you will pay for it.. even if you cancel your order.. so you can get a UR pulley and drive fine just as evreyone else with UR pulley has done.. or you can decide that you will not use a product based on no evidence about it..
And you have no evidence that it doesn't cause any damage. So, instead of spouting off at the mouth about how it doesn't do any damage, why don't you prove it??
steph is sponserd by aem.. they do not make a solid crank pulley.. politics does happen in the race scence too..
does anyone have any idea how long it takes for a damaged bearing to damage a motor? or oil pump for that matter.. anyone with a UR pulley and an oil pump faliure yet? nope... no one with just a UR pulley and stock rev fuel cut...
Billy makes a valid argument, but no test have been done to validate that argument. There are many causes to spinning a bearing that would concern me more, like low oil pressure from a bad pump, or pressure sensor failure.
To me this is like the whole cell phones can cause cancer theory. In theory the high concentration of microwaves to the brain should increase the risk of getting cancer from the radiation.
But since the testing thus far hasn't been conclusive, it will take years of testing before they own up to it. I believe it does, just like you would receiving radiation from other sources.
So I guess you could say I "agree" with Billy's theory, but while I had the UR pulleys, I wasn't concerned with the prospect of damage occurring, except possibly over a long period of time.
I probably wouldn't put one on a new car, but on my used built motor I didn't worry about long term risks, I doubted that a motor built to those specs would last 100K miles anyway.
If your not concerned with the risk, go for it, if you have questions, don't do it. I probably won't buy one again thats not a harmonic damper.
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