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Old 07-19-2002, 03:33 PM   #41 (permalink)
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now that u have perfectly explained double clutching.....can u please explain the heal toe double clucth brake thingie...please
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Old 07-19-2002, 03:45 PM   #42 (permalink)
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i agree double clutching isnt nessesary you can even kind of granny shift to 4th once you down shift and still pull. i do it all the time
downshift to 3rd. granny to 4ht and to 5th.
even with a 6 puck unsprung clutch you can do this.
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now that u have perfectly explained double clutching.....can u please explain the heal toe double clucth brake thingie...please
Heel and toe doesn't necessarily require a double-clutch downshift. It is also applicable to a regular downshift.

Anyhow, the goal is to downshift while braking. Since you only have 2 feet and 3 pedals to manipulate, this requires some fancy footwork. You use the ball of your right foot to brake (this is the "toe" part), while simultaneously using the heel to blip the gas.

If you apply it to the scenarios I described above, it's like this:

single-clutch downshift

1. approach corner, start to brake with your right foot
2. clutch in with left foot (your right foot is still on the brake)
3. downshift (still braking)
4. with your "toe" still on the brakes, you pivot your heel and blip the throttle
5. let out the clutch
6. either continue braking or get back on the gas (depends on where you are relative to the corner)

double-clutch downshift

1. approach corner, start to brake with your right foot
2. clutch in with left foot (still braking with right foot)
3. shift to neutral (still on brake)
4. clutch out (still on the brakes)
5. with your "toe" still on the brakes, you pivot your heel and blip the throttle
6. clutch in
7. downshift
8. clutch out
9. either continue braking or get back on the gas (depends on where you are relative to the corner)

This is difficult to practice, so before you head out to your favorite twisty road, you might want to sit in your driveway, leave the car in neutral, and get used to pivoting your foot sideways.

The fast way to learn heel and toe is to do it all the time. You're not going to pick it up by trying it once in a while. Do it on every corner possible. You might even try doing it when stopping for lights (be careful for traffic ahead of you). Normally, downshifting all the way to 1st for a stop is waste, but for the purposes of learning heel and toe, it's beneficial.
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hmm.. we need to FAQ this... how to drive a manual effectively
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Most of the time, if you want to practice heel toing on local roads...you would probably be downshifting to 1st. Mind you that it is critical for you to learn to rev up high so you don't spend too much time trying to jam the damn shifter back into 1st. I think our car goes up to 30mph in 1st...so you would rev up real high if you are slowing down into a corner at 20mph, you should be good to rev to 1st. You will be blasting out of that corner for sure...just drive safe. When you feel that you have enough experience doing this at a low speed, you can try doing on ramps and off ramps, where you are going slowing down from say, 80 to 50 to 30...so you can do more than one heel toe down shift. Have fun, keep the revs up and umm...drive safe.
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great explanations, pork chop! I agree, this is faq worthy
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WOW! faq please
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THanks for the info!
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