hey man, thats really dangerous. you'd probably be safer with 4 allseasons. for lawsuit reasons, no tire shop will do this for you. you run the risk of spinning out.
if you really wanted to, it'd actually be safer to put the 2 snow tires in the back even though its fwd. Not saying its safe at all, but safer than putting them in the front.
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Yeah, they do discourage this because if your front tires have better traction then your rears, your more likely to spin around and go sliding backwards down the street. So just buy 4 winter tires, they're worth it.
Blah Blah Blah. I've been driving on snow/ice with my Ultra High-Performance Summer tires for almost 7 years.
OP, where are you from?
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Blah Blah Blah. I've been driving on snow/ice with my Ultra High-Performance Summer tires for almost 7 years.
Really? What tires?
My Nitto 555's were becoming too unpredictable last week with the combination of high 40/ low 50 degree and rainy weather. I've already got the all seasons on now so I don't put the car in a ditch....
Blah Blah Blah. I've been driving on snow/ice with my Ultra High-Performance Summer tires for almost 7 years.
OP, where are you from?
I'm with kronn, for the 5 years i have been driving i never put on winter tires. I can hardly afford regular tires as it is. Besides driving in the snow is a f**king blast anyway, why would you want more traction? lol
Learn to use your e-brake/throttle to control your car, recognize stops you might have to make soon and keep away from steep hills.
(I'm probably going to get in some horrific accident come first snow now that I made this post. I'll post pics when it happens.)
All 4 would be ideal but I have run Dunlop Winter Sport tires in the front and Toyo Proxes on the rear for several winter seasons with no problem.
As far as putting snow tires only on the rear of a FWD car is useless. I can't even get in my driveway without the winter tires in the front. Putting them in the rear would just be laughable. As my Prelude would be sitting still with the front high performance tires spinning. Putting tires chains on rear wouldn't make a bit of difference
Granted, I drive very slow in winter conditions to avoid spinning but if my front tires have no traction, I can't make it onto the side roads.
My Nitto 555's were becoming too unpredictable last week with the combination of high 40/ low 50 degree and rainy weather. I've already got the all seasons on now so I don't put the car in a ditch....
I've gone through 3 sets of Kumho Ecsta 712's and currently on a set of Fuzion ZRi's.
Driving on slick surfaces is an skill. Proper use of down-shifting, engine-braking, brake-pumping, e-braking, and throttle control are recommended. It also is a good idea to take off in 2nd gear. And if you think snow or rain is difficult, try skating around on 1½" of solid ice. I'm not talking about a patch. I'm talking about a solid sheet that covers an entire state.
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I just want to point out that if you were in fact to use only two winter tires that you mount them on the back. Reason I say this is because the rear tires are the ones you always want to have the most traction regardless of FWD or RWD. Normally when you upset traction on the rear, the effort to regain control is much more difficult.
I don't in any way shape or form condone only using two all season/winter tires however. Recently a new resident in Colorado, I replaced my directional tread tire design with all season for safety.
I've gone through 3 sets of Kumho Ecsta 712's and currently on a set of Fuzion ZRi's.
Maybe I will look into those when my current tires wear out. My Nitto's are IMPOSSIBLE to drive on in bad conditions. They randomly and unpredictably break loose while accelerating, decelerating, cruising, or turning when it is cold/wet at the same time. I had the front end come loose with the cruise control on going about 70 in a straight line....that was not fun. I can't even imagine how bad it would be in the snow.
I'm with kronn, for the 5 years i have been driving i never put on winter tires. I can hardly afford regular tires as it is. Besides driving in the snow is a f**king blast anyway, why would you want more traction? lol
Learn to use your e-brake/throttle to control your car, recognize stops you might have to make soon and keep away from steep hills.
(I'm probably going to get in some horrific accident come first snow now that I made this post. I'll post pics when it happens.)
That's pretty stupid advice. It really all depends where the guy lives. If he lives in a place like Winnipeg, where I live, you simply wouldn't get very far with summer tires. And trust me I know as I've had summer, all season and winter tires in snowy conditions, and driving with summer tires is just suicidal. I have no doubt in my mind that my gForce KDW's would be of no use to me driving over a polished ice patch or deep Canadian snow. In Quebec it is now illegal to use any tires that are not winter tires in winter time. But we get heavy snow falls, with roads you could ice skate on, in places like Vancouver you probably could drive all year with summer tires.
Maybe I will look into those when my current tires wear out. My Nitto's are IMPOSSIBLE to drive on in bad conditions. They randomly and unpredictably break loose while accelerating, decelerating, cruising, or turning when it is cold/wet at the same time. I had the front end come loose with the cruise control on going about 70 in a straight line....that was not fun. I can't even imagine how bad it would be in the snow.
I found the gForce KDW (new tread) to be surprisingly good in wet weather conditions. Almost handles as if it were dry. Only down side to them is that they're amazingly loud. I'd recommend some noise insulation around the wheel wells, but aside from that they're pretty solid. Plus they look pretty cool.
Blah Blah Blah. I've been driving on snow/ice with my Ultra High-Performance Summer tires for almost 7 years.
OP, where are you from?
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Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH
Driving on slick surfaces is a skill. Proper use of down-shifting, engine-braking, brake-pumping, e-braking, and throttle control are recommended. It also is a good idea to take off in 2nd gear. And if you think snow or rain is difficult, try skating around on 1½" of solid ice. I'm not talking about a patch. I'm talking about a solid sheet that covers an entire state.
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That's pretty stupid advice. It really all depends where the guy lives. If he lives in a place like Winnipeg, where I live, you simply wouldn't get very far with summer tires. And trust me I know as I've had summer, all season and winter tires in snowy conditions, and driving with summer tires is just suicidal. I have no doubt in my mind that my gForce KDW's would be of no use to me driving over a polished ice patch or deep Canadian snow. In Quebec it is now illegal to use any tires that are not winter tires in winter time. But we get heavy snow falls, with roads you could ice skate on, in places like Vancouver you probably could drive all year with summer tires.
I recommend that anyone north of Kansas owns snow tires.
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It's been a while since I've driven through Kamloops, but most of BC is mountainy. I'd say that "lots of snow" plus inclinations & declinations == mandatory winter tires.
Driving on slick surfaces is a skill. Proper use of down-shifting, engine-braking, brake-pumping, e-braking, and throttle control are recommended. It also is a good idea to take off in 2nd gear. And if you think snow or rain is difficult, try skating around on 1½" of solid ice. I'm not talking about a patch. I'm talking about a solid sheet that covers an entire state.
This is all absolutely true, no argument there. However, the only thing that's gonna stop (or start) your car is your tires. Yes, driver skill is a massive factor, but you'd be handicapping yourself if you chose to use sub-par equipment. Hey, we have exceptionally long, cold and snowy winters here, I've done and seen it all in terms of winter driving, and I push my car to the limit. Winter tires are a great investment for me. Maybe in the US where the snow season lasts a few weeks winter tires don't make sense. But here we can have 6+ months of snow. So ya, I agree with your latter statement that anyone North of Kansas should have snow tires.
Btw: Wisest words in this thread: Preludes deserve to take the winter off. Wish I had a beater about now, already have my winter tires on.
If you want only two, just order them from Tirerack and say that you already have another set. They won't bother you again after that. As far as the effectiveness of snow tires, it's like night and day how much better they are than summer and all-season tires. Preludes are blessed with a good amount of weight on the front tires. With snow tires a Lude would have no problem conquering winter roads.
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