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Old 02-01-2006, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Pirelli PZero System Asimmetrico's?

Any info or opinions on these? Will be using them for summer daily-driving [lots of highway] & weekend auto-x

Also considering Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212's.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Any info or opinions on these? Will be using them for summer & weekend auto-x

Also considering Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212's.
http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/2055016

Get either the hankooks or the Toyo T1-R's. I think paulyg has the ventus r-s2's....
KEITH has the t1-r's if you wanna mess around with them....
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yea, I'm pretty sure paulyg has the hankooks. He and JP Page recommended them...
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Nobody here's ever used these tires before??
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are these tires extremely cheap or something? Seems like you really want them. I would just get the Hankooks that paulyg got since it looks like that's exactly what yuo're looking for. I PERSONALLY would get some TOYO PROXES T1-Rs....I KNOW KEEEF is with me on this one!!
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Well the price is not bad, basically about $11/tire higher than the 'Kooks. I debating, I'm not sure.

Both the Hanny's and the Piro's seem to be streetable track-day tires...

As for the Proxes, they don't seem to be much better than the 'Kooks, yet the cost like $20/tire more...

Ahh, decisions, decisions... at least I got it narrowed down to max perf. summer tires now that I have all-seasoners for the winter.

I also took GS-D3's and BFG g-Force T/A KDW's off my list for other reasons [read: budget ]
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I liked the P-zero's but they were very short lived and the grip is about on par with the Hankooks. The Toyo T1's were better as a street tire as it got almost double the miles, a little less dry grip but a great deal more wet grip.
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I liked the P-zero's but they were very short lived and the grip is about on par with the Hankooks. The Toyo T1's were better as a street tire as it got almost double the miles, a little less dry grip but a great deal more wet grip.
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I got 22,000 miles out of my T1-s's...AWESOME TIRES...it's got me to keep on buy toyo tires. The T1-R's have stiffer sidewalls compared to last year so it helps with handling. IMO they are worth the money and the pirelli's Pzero's asymmetrico's are kinda outdated.
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I've used both the Hankooks and the Pirelli's for auto-x. I would say go with the hankooks. They had netter turn in response and better grip. Plus, they are cheaper. DD on the hankooks for a while, not bad, a little noisy and the wet grip isn't the best. Never DD on the Pirellis. Also, if you are on stock rims go ahead and get 225/45-16's instead of the stock 205's. Shouldn't be too much more expensive and u'll be getting a larger contact patch.
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JP, would 225/45's be safe for DD?
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Yeah, 225/45-16 will be fine. I did it for a while. You'll be fine.
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Any idea how many miles I could probably get out of the 'Kooks daily driving them? Basically, I drive approx. 2k/month, so if I get the tires mid-March and plan to use them until mid-November, that'd be about 16k miles... But then I'd also be auto-x'ing them like 7-8 times... I'm not sure if I should be planning on replacing the tires mid-season or what... any input is appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Any idea how many miles I could probably get out of the 'Kooks daily driving them? Basically, I drive approx. 2k/month, so if I get the tires mid-March and plan to use them until mid-November, that'd be about 16k miles... But then I'd also be auto-x'ing them like 7-8 times... I'm not sure if I should be planning on replacing the tires mid-season or what... any input is appreciated, thanks in advance.
hmm, not to sure, i didn't use my kooks till they died, sold em to by some r-comps. I think one set will last at least the season depending on the surface you auto-x on.
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I liked the Asimmetricos. The only reason I didn't use them again was they didn't offer a 225/45/16 for the wider wheels I put on the Lude. The tire I went to was the T1-S in 225/45/16, and I loved them. The best tire (IMO) I have had on any of my cars...but I haven't had the Bridgestone PP S03s on there, yet. The wet grip with both the Pirellis and the Toyos was exceptional...and I didn't notice the soft sidewalls on either of the tires until I took them autoXing or to the track and had to air them up significantly.
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Are T1-R's the later version of T1-S's or something?
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Are T1-R's the later version of T1-S's or something?
Yes they are. Stiffer sidewalls too. =) DO EET...they're great tires man you wont' be disappointed. Check this out too:


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Hey, good info, thanks Jeff!

Question is, why would anyone still buy the T1-S's if the T1-R's are demonstrably better?
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Hey, good info, thanks Jeff!

Question is, why would anyone still buy the T1-S's if the T1-R's are demonstrably better?
NO idea...haha. It's the same price as the T1-R's on www.edgeracing.com i think too! Maybe it's somethign stupid like they dont' like the thread design on the t1-r's and like the pretty t1-s design. lol
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Or maybe they still have T1-S stock, and haven't gotten rid of it, yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of 'specials' on the T1-S in the near future.
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ok, now thinking about Dunlop SP Sport Maxx
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