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Old 06-08-2006, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WTB and advice for 5spd swap

need parts and advice on 5spd swap in a 5thgen. thanks in advance
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need parts and advice on 5spd swap in a 5thgen. thanks in advance
i would also want to know how much this well end up costing with material and labor? does anybody know ay shop or people on the forum that can do it?
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I would recommend you see Billy or Todd for something like this.

I wouldn't trust my car with anyone else.

They do excellent work!
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Old 06-09-2006, 10:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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for people here how have already done a ss-5sp swap i heard it kind of expensive how much at the end did yall end up paying?
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I can tell you that I personally won't be doing any more 5-spd swaps. It's not really possible to do it "right", you have to modify too much (drilling holes in the firewall, missing holes/nuts in the chassis to mount stuff properly...). It's all sort of one big kluge.

Recommendation: sell your auto and get a 5-spd. Trust me- it will end up being cheaper in the long run.

We seriously underbid the last job that we did and will not make that mistake again. Expect a pricetag north of $1500 in labor alone. It's hard to find a good 5-spd under $750 anymore and the supporting parts will probably run $250-$750 depending on if you get them new or not.

When it's said and done, it's cheaper, easier, and faster to trade the vehicle in for a manual.

I should also add that doing it wrong is dangerous and you should not attempt to go "cheap" on this one. Beware anyone who says they can do it for <$1k in labor.
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What about those of us who can not afford buying a new prelude even with selling their car because their automatic has pretty much gone out and there's other work that needs to be done, so they wont get much for selling?

Also a lot of work done on the current car that I don't have the stocks to put back on.
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See my post above. Nothing is going to change the fact that this job takes a lot of time, a lot of parts, and sucks balls. Any quote for a 5-spd swap will reflect this.
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i'm trying to get a hold of the parts. you said 750 new? plan is DIY, downtime doesn't matter. do you have anymore advice where to find parts other than search individually at junkyards or what not? thanks in advance. lmk
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Not 750 new- I think Honda wants like $2500 for a new 5-spd. I'm saying $750 for a used tranny. There are a hole mess of other parts you need, and a bunch (like the master/slave cyls and shift cables) that you should buy new since used ones will be pretty iffy.

http://www.car-part.com and call and see if a yard will make you a deal on everything all together.
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Not 750 new- I think Honda wants like $2500 for a new 5-spd. I'm saying $750 for a used tranny. There are a hole mess of other parts you need, and a bunch (like the master/slave cyls and shift cables) that you should buy new since used ones will be pretty iffy.

http://www.car-part.com and call and see if a yard will make you a deal on everything all together.
you said that you dont want to do anymore swap but do you no anybody that you would recommend to do it on our preludes?
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Doug did Carl's with my help, and I'd be interested in doing another, if the price was right.
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^Only if the price was right :uugh: I would do another, but I must admit that I won't be looking forward to it.
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oh okay.. I thought you guys won't be doing another anymore because my #1 option is swapping through your shop

I PMed you Billy for details

I'm sure it was hard only because it was the first time you guys tackled a job like that.. ya know? I'm sure after you guys do the job a couple more times it'll get somehow easier..
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i found this thread on di.net i was wondering if it would just be around that price and also
http://www.dallasimports.net/forums/...howtopic=53550
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i would say somewhere around 550.00 for parts and if you paid someone to do it another 400.00
If this is the quote you're referring too...



no

His labor quote is for like a clutch/flywheel job. Auto - 5 Speed swap is just a tad more work.
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oh ok so how long would something like this take?
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I prolly put in about 50+ hours work into Carls swap it being the first time and all. It takes awhile to convert everything.
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I prolly put in about 50+ hours work into Carls swap it being the first time and all. It takes awhile to convert everything.
Yeah, maybe you can be the 5spd swap expert after a few more lol.

I just wanted to add a bit to this since I have the 5spd swap in my car done by Doug with the help of Billy and Todd.

For parts alone expect to pay $2k and up, it's not as simple as buying ; tranny, cables, slave/master, flywheel, and clutch. There will be about 155+ individual parts that you will have to buy, steal , procure, etc.

I have put about 4.5k miles on my car since the swap and I drive it everyday. The only problem I had was with clutch engagement after the first week. It was a combination of a fluid problem mixed with a pedal adjustment problem, but since bleeding and adjusting it has been fine.

If you love your car and meet some criteria:
1. Can't live without your prelude
2. Can't live with your auto prelude
3. Can't sell you lude and buy a 5spd lude
4. Have the money to make it happen

Then go ahead and start buying every part that a 5spd has. Then talk to Doug and Billy about what huge amount of money it will cost to do this pain in the ass job. Plus they have one under there belt, so they have experience with the swap. I wouldn't trust a import shop that has probaly never heard of the "Prelude 5spd swap". This isn't a simple bolt in job that they might beleive and I promise the speed shop will have to rig it to fulfil a $800-$1000 quote.

Also if you read any of the guides on this swap they are all missing alot of steps, info, etc. I have been working alot of hours and am also on a 28.8k connection, so I havn't been doing alot online this summer. Hopefully I will still get around to doing a complete parts list for the swap.
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<Solid> What did you use for a clutch pedal/master cylinder mounting bracket? I was thinking of using plate steel on either side of the firewall. Suggestions?
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<Solid> What did you use for a clutch pedal/master cylinder mounting bracket? I was thinking of using plate steel on either side of the firewall. Suggestions?
Billy/71dsp fabbed a metal spacer that the master would fit through. He made two of them so it would sandwich the firewall giving it some strength.

After mounting everything it looks as if there is an additional mounting place towards the top of the pedal, towards the driver. This would prevent the pedal assy. from flexing as much if you could fab something for that.
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