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Old 10-16-2001, 06:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Safe nitrous kit

I was wondering if any of you guys can recommend a safe nitrous kit. I own a 2001 Prelude SH and I'm very interested in installing a nitrous kit. I spoke to a few Lude owner at Etown on Saturday and all of them recommended ZEX. Does anyone know if they make one specific kit or various kits for the Prelude? I'm looking for the most a 55 shot kit. Can you guys help me? I really don't know much about nitrous. Also, is their a speed shop in NJ that has good knowledge about nitrous. Thanks for your help.
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Old 10-17-2001, 10:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 10-17-2001, 11:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 10-18-2001, 02:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you never want to shot above a 75 shot, get the Zex kit. If you think that one day you'll want to shoot above a 75 shot you'll need to go with the NOS dry system, b/c it can be upgraded to a direct port kit, where as the Zex kit can't be upgraded.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Let me put it to you in plain english: NO NITROUS KIT IS SAFE!!!!!! I don't care if you only spray 10hp you are still doing damage to your motor. I hope that clears some stuff up for the unwise.
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I disagree AND agree at the same time.

Nitrous can be SAFE and NOT hurt your engine if you CORRECTLY use it. The only draw back from that is the ENGINE LIFE will depreciate. ANYTHING aftermarket, ultimately, depreciates the life of your engine. So basically you NEED to say that ANYTHING aftermarket on your car is NOT SAFE.

I have been running nitrous on three different cars including my 13 second Prelude (550WHP Supra, Supercharged S251 Saleen) with absolutely NO problems spraying. If you do decide to internal work, that makes it that much more safe. There ARE ways to "bullet-proof" your internals to take a massive amount of horsepower.

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Old 10-18-2001, 09:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Let me put it to you in plain english: NO NITROUS KIT IS SAFE!!!!!! I don't care if you only spray 10hp you are still doing damage to your motor. I hope that clears some stuff up for the unwise.
Well, what can we say?!

Well I say that if the engine don't run lean (rise the fuel pressure at WOT) and you don't detonate (retard the ignition wisely), a nitous oxide kit can not damage more an engine than a Turbo or supercharger for an equivalent HP boost. If you monitore the A/F mixture and Exhaust gas temperature, well I don't see how a Nitrous Oxide kit would not be safe.

Just my 0.02
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Old 10-18-2001, 11:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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, well I don't see how a Nitrous Oxide kit would not be safe.


Let me ask you PatLude...Have you ever taken apart a motor that has been running nitrous? Probably not. Go hang out down at your local performance engine shop and they will show you what nitrous does to an engine.
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What does nitrous do to an engine? Please enlighten me.
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Old 10-19-2001, 01:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I have seen a motor with nitrous ran in it...

Not any different than with any other performance mods (I/E/H)

More carbon deposits...
Plugs SHOULD be speckled

Other than that you won't NOTICE anything different, other than the effect of a lean engine

I agree with you, wholeheartedly, that it DOES put wear and tear on your engine, but so do other modifications

It can be ran safely, in the fact that you don't blow your engine and possible hurt yourself. When people refer to "safety" in running nitrous, they are looking at the aspect of whether or not your engine will survive after spraying.

Like I said before, there are ways to "bullet-proof" your engine to prevent detonation and massive amounts of pressure on your internals. Nothing forged pistons and some valve work won't fix.

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Old 10-19-2001, 05:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Let me put it to you in plain english: NO NITROUS KIT IS SAFE!!!!!! I don't care if you only spray 10hp you are still doing damage to your motor. I hope that clears some stuff up for the unwise.

Sorry bub, but you are clearly misinformed. Apparently you've seen the pics of some moron who either installed the system improperly, or ignored warnings of how much to spray. The only danger here is running to lean if you stay within recommended limits, the only time a bottle is unsafe is if the burst disc is tampered with, they cannot become a "bomb" with correct use. if you choose not to use it that is your choice, but don't spread untruths. NOS has boosted cars for years with much success and very little excessive wear and tear on engines.
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Old 10-19-2001, 12:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thats what I'm trying to say

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Old 10-19-2001, 01:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies. After reading some of posts I've decide to say
away from nitrous. Like some of you said, is safe as long as you don't
do anything stupid. I hate to say it but, I know how I am. I think I'll get carry way with it. Anyways, I don't race on the streets and I go to the track about 5 or 7 times a year. All I really want is to get into the high 14's. Again thanks for your answers.
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You made a good choice if you think that you could not handle that amount of power. If you don't run on the streets, BUT you do want to run on the track, then nitrous isn't a bad idea. I run my nitrous on the street sometimes, and on the track, but I know when to stop.

You will get into the upper 14s EASY with even a 50 shot.

My opinion to you is to get the system for track use only...Now, if the investment is not worth going to the track several times a year, then stick to some other modification.

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Thanks for the replies. After reading some of posts I've decide to say
away from nitrous. Like some of you said, is safe as long as you don't
do anything stupid. I hate to say it but, I know how I am. I think I'll get carry way with it. Anyways, I don't race on the streets and I go to the track about 5 or 7 times a year. All I really want is to get into the high 14's. Again thanks for your answers.

If you can admit that, you've got more control than you think. Most guys wouldn't admit it. It is like a drug, you need to know when to say no , I'll admit sometimes it's tough, in fact I rarely leave the driveway without the bottle cracked (just in case)but I've been better about it than even I thought I could be. Everyone must decide what is right for them and their ride!
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the fact that a bottle refill costs $50 is an excellent deterrent for overusing it on the street
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Old 11-12-2001, 05:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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the fact that a bottle refill costs $50 is an excellent deterrent for overusing it on the street
$50 dayyyyymmmmmmmmmmnnnnnn and I thought $35 was bad for a weekend of tires smoking
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Old 11-28-2001, 09:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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the fact that a bottle refill costs $50 is an excellent deterrent for overusing it on the street
hha.. if any of you so kal guys want to refill your NOS i got hook ups... 25 bux.. for a 10lb refill from NOS
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hha.. if any of you so kal guys want to refill your NOS i got hook ups... 25 bux.. for a 10lb refill from NOS
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hey SADWAP, how's your setup coming along? I'd be curious to take a look at it some time. You're socal, right? I thought I saw you @ hp.com in that forum. I'm still struggling to get this whole setup put together.

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