Dude, that's a CO2 bike tire inflator, a box of whip-it whip cream chargers, and a rubber hose. Think about that for a second.
It's nice to meet the "ebay suckers" that buy all the random crap that I see on there. I always think to myself, "Who buys this ridiculous ****?"
now I know.
What's even funnier is his warning that "others are selling cheap kits" "The line may freeze, spilling nitrous into the engine and causing a fire."
Too bad nitrous isn't flammable.
try to keep an open mind for a second...
I'm not saying this is a valid "hook up".... But you seem like a smart guy... How much nitrous oxide is in each one of those whippit canisters? More than enough to charge the line and put some into the intake. Your fancy NX kit is basically the same thing, just with better hardware and bigger bottle. The shot may be miniscule, but it DOES work...
And your right, N2O dosn't burn... but neither does oxygen, and you wouldn't want that spraying on your motor!
It may work, but it isn't going to yield much power nor is it going to last long. You get about 10 or so 15 second runs with a 35 shot of a full sized nitrous kit with a 10 lb bottle. So you are spaying about 4 lbs a minute. I'd imagine these whip cream charges have about 2 ounces of nitrous in them which would give you around 3 seconds of spray times, totaling about 3 seconds of spray time.
I'm not saying this is a valid "hook up".... But you seem like a smart guy... How much nitrous oxide is in each one of those whippit canisters? More than enough to charge the line and put some into the intake. Your fancy NX kit is basically the same thing, just with better hardware and bigger bottle. The shot may be miniscule, but it DOES work...
And your right, N2O dosn't burn... but neither does oxygen, and you wouldn't want that spraying on your motor!
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Not only is there less nitrous in a whip-it canister, it is at much lower pressure.
You will not get enough nitrous to make any appreciable difference in performance.
I'm not saying this is a valid "hook up".... But you seem like a smart guy... How much nitrous oxide is in each one of those whippit canisters? More than enough to charge the line and put some into the intake. Your fancy NX kit is basically the same thing, just with better hardware and bigger bottle. The shot may be miniscule, but it DOES work...
And your right, N2O dosn't burn... but neither does oxygen, and you wouldn't want that spraying on your motor!
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I do have an open mind, and I LOVE DIY crap like this claims to be.
but there are several problems here. Whip-it chargers are at like 700 psi. I don't konw if you've ever been in a car running 700 pounds of pressure in their fancy NX kit, but when it's that low it doesn't do much of anything.
problem 2 is the total lack of volume in that little canister. There's only a few grams of nitrous oxide in that thing. My fancy NX kit has 10 POUNDS in it. My fiance is a manager at starbucks, I've used millions of those thing to make whip cream. It gets the canister (you've probably seenthe dispensers there) to MAYBE 50 psi. There just isn't the volume in there to do more than pressurize the line to maybe 150 psi for more than a split second.
So now you have a low volume of gas, coupled with low pressure. The intake stream could ingest the volume of gas contained in that whip-it charge in MAYBE 1 second. so, hook it up right, and on the off chance that the line doesn't actually pop, and you don't mind a random line fishing through your engine bay, and you don't mind all the gas going to 1 cylinder from POOR distribution...
you'd feel a slight hiccup and buck for maybe 1 second. You'd probably get the same amount of oxygen in the intake by driving on a really cold day vs. warm day with this thing. and even that effect would only last for something on the order of a second or two.
seems like a pretty ****ty mod to me once you think it through a bit. And that's ignoring the dangers of spraying without adding any fuel at all.
and as for the nitrous vs oxygen thing
It takes a LOT of heat to start the reaction that seperates the nitrogen from the oxygen in nitrous. Even then the nitrogen acts like a buffer to cause a burn instead of an explosion. I'll spray nitrous into my engine bay all day and never give it a second thought. All oxygen needs is a spark. that I'll pass on.
I do have an open mind, and I LOVE DIY crap like this claims to be.
but there are several problems here. Whip-it chargers are at like 700 psi. I don't konw if you've ever been in a car running 700 pounds of pressure in their fancy NX kit, but when it's that low it doesn't do much of anything.
problem 2 is the total lack of volume in that little canister. There's only a few grams of nitrous oxide in that thing. My fancy NX kit has 10 POUNDS in it. My fiance is a manager at starbucks, I've used millions of those thing to make whip cream. It gets the canister (you've probably seenthe dispensers there) to MAYBE 50 psi. There just isn't the volume in there to do more than pressurize the line to maybe 150 psi for more than a split second..
So the tank isn't as big... Do you use all 10 lbs of nitrous on one shot? The person describing it claims 1 tank = 1 shot. Also, to address the issue of charging... the line will be half as long (since it's just running from intake to Drivers side). I've never driven in a car with nitrous, let alone one with low pressure, so I'm just working on theory here. But, theroetically, as long as some N2O makes it into the engine, there will be SOME gains (granted, not nearly as much as your 50 shot). No one is claiming that this kit compares to a NX wet kit.
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So now you have a low volume of gas, coupled with low pressure. The intake stream could ingest the volume of gas contained in that whip-it charge in MAYBE 1 second. so, hook it up right, and on the off chance that the line doesn't actually pop, and you don't mind a random line fishing through your engine bay, and you don't mind all the gas going to 1 cylinder from POOR distribution....
Gas Distribution would be the same as in a single fogger dry kit. it all depends on where you mount the sprayer. Also, I'm working under the assumption that the kit works properly. (i.e., won't break).
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you'd feel a slight hiccup and buck for maybe 1 second. You'd probably get the same amount of oxygen in the intake by driving on a really cold day vs. warm day with this thing. and even that effect would only last for something on the order of a second or two..
seems like a pretty ****ty mod to me once you think it through a bit. And that's ignoring the dangers of spraying without adding any fuel at all..
Well, I'm not claiming it would get you a huge boost... I'm saying it would be noticable. And, the whole "dangers of spraying without adding any fuel" thing is a red herring, since you know h22's run rich and can handle up to a 50 shot on a dry kit (with no fuel management).
I would think that this kit would have the most noticable impact at WOT during VTEC... Because the motor runs so rich at WOT, ANY amount of nitrous would improve power just because there is already an excess of fuel being injected... If timed right, I bet you could get A LITTLE boost. but, like I said many times before, it wouldn't be comparable to a professional kit.
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Originally Posted by Vapor
and as for the nitrous vs oxygen thing
It takes a LOT of heat to start the reaction that seperates the nitrogen from the oxygen in nitrous. Even then the nitrogen acts like a buffer to cause a burn instead of an explosion. I'll spray nitrous into my engine bay all day and never give it a second thought. All oxygen needs is a spark. that I'll pass on.
That's true... however, I still would not feel comfortable having a nitrous leak in my engine bay... If something goes bad, it would get much worse. I'm sure there HAVE been fires related to nitrous leaks...
guys - i think there is to much overanalysis here. No1 in there right mind would put that on their prelude. I mean come on! It looks like something you buy from the dollar store!!
guys - i think there is to much overanalysis here. No1 in there right mind would put that on their prelude. I mean come on! It looks like something you buy from the dollar store!!
Oh, I agree... I certainly wouldn't put it on mine. But, that dosen't mean it wouldn't work. Some people here seem to have superiority complexes...
But, I admit, I should know better than to play devil's advocate for something like this in the nitrous forum...
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