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Old 06-08-2003, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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bottle pressure of 700= crappy performance?

Tonight i finished the zex install and my pressure was only at 700 and i barely felt anything from the jets for a 65 shot. I'm not sure if i'm supposed to or what but i don't really feel anything and dont break loose spraying in 2nd. Anyone have any input on this? or anything i possibly did wrong?
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your not getting much at 700 psi...should be more like 1000.....
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Old 06-08-2003, 11:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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700 psi is pretty low, but even at that you should have felt a difference. do you know if the solenoid (or barney box) is opening and spraying nitrous? You might make sure it is. You could also look into the jet and make sure there isn't anything blocking it (debris getting pushed through the line from the install). Did you use teflon tape on your fittings? If you did you might want to remove it and use some of the liquid pipe thread sealer.
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the barney box is working i used jets 34 and 35 as the zex suggested for a 65 shot, I'm beginning to believe its just low bottle pressure because i raced someone tonight and it was a big difference than before just I don't feel anything, neither of us missed a gear or anything so the only difference is the n2o. Time for me to buy a bottle heater i guess

BTW do your guy's with a similar size shot tires break loose if you shoot in 2nd? J/W?
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I run a 35 NX shot and my tires break loose all over in 2nd....they break loose in 2nd w/o the juice for that matter....is your car an AT? what model is it?
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uhm yeah I know when i shift into second...but i mean as you shoot in second...after you grab. Shooting while you're already broke loose from the 1-2 shift isn't doing you any good
its a 94 Vtec..MANUAL as they only come in that, I'm asking if when you shoot in second does it cause any of your tires to break loose cause it sure did on my friends civic back when he ran a 65 shot
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^^ Civic is also quite a bit lighter.
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i spray in every gear and i break loose in 2nd,ut quickly gain it back,ive discovered that,in least in my car, spraying in every gear is better, alot faster...
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i spray in every gear and i break loose in 2nd,ut quickly gain it back,ive discovered that,in least in my car, spraying in every gear is better, alot faster...
Really!? That's astounding! anyone got any real information on this, other than just being smart asses, you know what I mean, if you don't then don't bother replying please. Thanks.
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You should feel it and know it. I do not break loose in 2nd, but I've got an Si. Spraying a 55 on zex w/bottle heater at about 1000psi is way different than w/o a bottle heater. Without a heater my car felt a gear lower in every gear i.e. 2nd-like 1st. 3rd like 2nd etc. I don't spray until my wheels grab in 2nd. With the heater it feels way torqier. I did alot oif other mods when i did my heater though, so it may be a combo thing, cai,exh,htr all at the same time.

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Is torqier a real word? I meant it pulls way harder.
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JNKOH sprayed at the track in second gear only and I believe he ran 13.9. Then he ran it in all gears, and he hit a 13.6. Therefore, I believe it is better to shoot in all gears.
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JNKOH sprayed at the track in second gear only and I believe he ran 13.9. Then he ran it in all gears, and he hit a 13.6. Therefore, I believe it is better to shoot in all gears.
Makes sense, but i've got problems at the track in first anyway(wheelspin) I'm getting better, maybe I'll try once I master my launches.
On the street my 1st launch is fine maybe I'll try there.
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shootin in first on the street would be way harder than at the track, yeah nemicron you did sell me the kit..even though it took forever! heh, at least it came and i did have to buy a new bottle valve cause it leaked like mad but oh well i still got a hell of a deal, thanks for the more informative posts. Looks like Im gonna get a bottle heater.
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i spray in every gear and i break loose in 2nd,ut quickly gain it back,ive discovered that,in least in my car, spraying in every gear is better, alot faster...
This can be the case. It depends on the amount of wheelspin, and more importantly, the tires. Some tires do very well when spinning a 'lil. Others break loose completely, and slow you down. Try both ways, and see what works better with your setup...
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a little OT, but why should I use liquid teflon Vs. tape? where can I get liquid teflon sealer?
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i got mine at home depot...the custom racing store! :P
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a little OT, but why should I use liquid teflon Vs. tape? where can I get liquid teflon sealer?
Little pieces of the teflon tape can break off, travel through your nitrous line, and become enlodged in the noid or the jet(s). If it gets stuck on the noid seal you'll leak nitrous into your motor after you think that you've stopped spraying. If it gets clogged in a nitrous jet you'll run rich, have to troubleshoot your whole kit, and then clean the jets out if you realize that one or more of them is clogged. If it clogs a fuel jet you won't have to trouble shoot anything because your cylinders will be filled with mobile 1 and cast metal smoothie, and life will suck.
Edit: Loc-tite in the blue bottle works well also. Hondabond can work also, but it is too thick and goopy to do a clean install with.
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just as a comparison I have an SS and with a 50 shot spin the tires all the way through 1st (40 mph or so) and just a little at the bottom of second.
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Yep...get the bottle heater. Makes a big difference...you won't regret it. The Dyno-Tune heater is pressure controlled, instead of temperature. Easy to install.
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