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Old 03-05-2004, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Twin Plate clutch for H22?

It looks like Exedy and OS Giken only make them for B series sissies. Who makes a Twin Plate for us? The reality is my 6 puck RPS will not hold my current project when its done.
I need something that will stick it out through 400+ TQ.
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Old 03-05-2004, 06:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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try tilton. they can prob custom make one for u.

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Old 03-05-2004, 08:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks....My engine builder just got one for his ITR, I will see what his feelings are and probably buy it.
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man, id like to use one of those
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Old 03-06-2004, 02:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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try tilton. they can prob custom make one for u.

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No need to have one customed, they already make an off the shelf kit. Tilton 7.25" Carbon/Carbon Clutch for $3500 and a 7.25" Cerametallic Clutch for $1300
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man, id like to use one of those
Way too much clutch for your setup.....Can you say CRANKWALK?
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Thanks....My engine builder just got one for his ITR, I will see what his feelings are and probably buy it.
is that thing even streetable???
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Way too much clutch for your setup.....Can you say CRANKWALK?
Crankwalk?!? Have you driven one of these? The pedal pressure isn't much more than stock. You're more likely to get crankwalk with one of those push-your-brake-to-the-floor ACT setups. I've personally put both the Tilton and the Exedy version in several setups and would highly recommend them...they grip like no other yet retain a nice light feel. I'll definitely be going with a Tilton when my CM stageIV gives up the ghost.

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so it is streetable???

how much tq can that puppy hold?
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very streetable, the pedal pressure and engagment should feel close to stock. Above that, it'll hold more then you can throw at it.
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hmmmmm

me thinks me found a clutch for my all motor and nitrous buildup

but a bit way too expensive for me
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Crankwalk?!? Have you driven one of these? The pedal pressure isn't much more than stock. You're more likely to get crankwalk with one of those push-your-brake-to-the-floor ACT setups. I've personally put both the Tilton and the Exedy version in several setups and would highly recommend them...they grip like no other yet retain a nice light feel. I'll definitely be going with a Tilton when my CM stageIV gives up the ghost.

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Oooooh don't tempt me....
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hmmmmm

me thinks me found a clutch for my all motor and nitrous buildup

but a bit way too expensive for me
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Crankwalk?!? Have you driven one of these? The pedal pressure isn't much more than stock. You're more likely to get crankwalk with one of those push-your-brake-to-the-floor ACT setups.

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No, I haven't. I am just going by what I have heard. Using a clutch like this with a low-power setup could be devistating.
I said low-power about a 250whp Lude. My mind is warped by BOOST now!...
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why would it make a difference if it was a low power setup or high power? Just cause someone can make 500+ on the dyno doesn't mean they drive that way everyday. They more then likely run it at a low boost setting and rev to 3-4k before switching gears and at 20% throttle, never coming close to the 500+ they made, probably more like 100hp in the low rpm range. And I don't think there is such claim as to increase wear or devastating effects if not driven at wot
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No, I haven't. I am just going by what I have heard. Using a clutch like this with a low-power setup could be devistating.
I said low-power about a 250whp Lude. My mind is warped by BOOST now!...
ya dude, what you said makes no sense... think about what NTPReLuDe wrote.
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ya dude, what you said makes no sense... think about what NTPReLuDe wrote.
Well after scouring H-T.com for the guy that stated that a clutch like this would be waaayyyy too much for anything less than 300whp.....I have no success!.....
Since I can't back up what was said(not that it would even matter) I will admit I know nothing about CRAZY Clutches like this, and will kick back and absorb the info from everyone else.


After re-reading this post several times I would have to agree with logic here....A 500whp car will rarely see that mark if ever on the street. Life will be spent dancing through the 2-300 range on a realistic daily basis. I say realistic because that is just something I am not......
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NirVTEC, the point of a twin or triple plate clutch is to have greater torque holding capability with reduced clamping force. (Also tends to keep weight nearer the center of the clutch/FW, providing reduced momentum.) Excessive clamping force contributes to crankwalk.
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very streetable, the pedal pressure and engagment should feel close to stock. Above that, it'll hold more then you can throw at it.
The only downside is a bit of chatter on engagement and a rattle when the clutch is disengaged.

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what would you guys say the biggest differences are between tilton's carbon-carbon clutch, and the cerametallic? .....and i dont mean price hahah.
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The only downside is a bit of chatter on engagement and a rattle when the clutch is disengaged.

--Ian
definately that but i think its a pain to daily drive. esp in traffic and being from NYC i dont think its streetable for these roads. a friend of mine had a tilton twin disc in his 600whp civic...that clutch did not slip at all. it was like having a toggle switch on the clutch. on or off...no in between. gripped like a mofo though.

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definately that but i think its a pain to daily drive. esp in traffic and being from NYC i dont think its streetable for these roads. a friend of mine had a tilton twin disc in his 600whp civic...that clutch did not slip at all. it was like having a toggle switch on the clutch. on or off...no in between. gripped like a mofo though.

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hmmm I definitely dont want that then
I go to NY alot(just moved to PA 3 years ago from NY) and its bad enough getting stuck in traffic, its even worse when you have a clutch thats a on off switch
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The only downside is a bit of chatter on engagement and a rattle when the clutch is disengaged.

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Sounds like going from my Stage III 6 puck to a Tilton Twin Plate will be like going from the fried OEM to the 6 puck.
Yippee for Company Cars!!!
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Well, chalk another $1300 to my parts list!...
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BTW the 91-96 NSX came with a twin disc clutch STOCK.
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Boooooooo!!!! We have a 1997 here right now!
I will have to keep my eyes open in service for a customer car to try the clutch out on.
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it cant be that unstreetable if it came on the nsx stock no? hahah. i want some justification so i can try it! hahah
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