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Old 08-10-2008, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Time to Turbo my 97 luDe!

Well my h22a is bone stock besides cai and exhaust so i want to upgrade my internals, and i thought i might as well go all out and fully built my h22 and and turbo it.

Ive been researching for the last couple weeks and this seems do-able but i want to ask youguys running turbo's, what internals are you running? And what are good websites to buy performance cams, pistons, etc.

I was thinking wiseco 8.5:1 pistons, eagle h beams, LA sleeves, oem JDM crank, and skunk2 head components then a greddy bolt on kit?

Please give me positive ideas, opinions, and input!


Dont destroy my hopes like you guys did to that chick who wanted the fully built k20 turbo!
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Well i had 7psi on stock internals. so i dunno. im the other side of the fence. i wont build my motor because to me its not worth it. I'd just as well buy a faster car at that cost.

And i dont see why everyone wants to lower their compression. Do you really want to be a slug outside of boost?
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What turbo did you run? im not sure what turbo is the most reliable, i think i might keep it stock.

How much boost do i need to run, low 13's-high 12's?
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You might consider going to an engine builder to specializes in Hondas. If you aren't used to doing internal engine work, then you will pretty much need to anyways. Most often, they know which brands they prefer to use and will steer you in the right direction.

I don't know any builders in the tri-state area offhand, but some searching in the FI forum on Honda-Tech would be a good idea. Maybe someone from that area can give you a recommendation.
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If you build and want to use a greddy bolt-on turbo kit it would be a waste imo... The greddy bolt-on kit was designed to be used on the stock motor under 10 psi of boost... If you build/sleeve the bottom end you should be good for any horsepower you want up till 300-800 hp maybe even more but higher you go the more complicated things get..

I am gunna try to quickly sum it up for a nice reliable power setup: sleeves, forged pistons, micro-polish & balance crank, head work (not necessary but good for flow and to reinforce higher revs), save money & use stock cam shafts, turbo, manifold, downpipe and dump tube, wastegate, engine management, injectors, boost gauge, boost controller, exhaust and piping, clamps, hoses, couplers, intercooler, turbo oil feed and return lines, bungs welded on oil pan, fuel pressure regulator, and ETC. I am sure I forgot stuff but thats a pretty good quick list, and DO NOT SKIMP ON A GOOD TUNER/TUNE! Good luck and remember have a good amount of cash set aside if things were to go wrong or break, I like to call it a Turbo Risk Back Up Fund LoL..
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Well i had 7psi on stock internals. so i dunno. im the other side of the fence. i wont build my motor because to me its not worth it. I'd just as well buy a faster car at that cost.

And i dont see why everyone wants to lower their compression. Do you really want to be a slug outside of boost?
From my understanding, turbo builds don't like compression ratios above 9:1. I have no knowledge on the subject though other than what people who have built turbo set ups before have said.
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From my understanding, turbo builds don't like compression ratios above 9:1. I have no knowledge on the subject though other than what people who have built turbo set ups before have said.
No see its not about HP or torque or boost PSI. Its about cylinder pressure. And this is where the combined gas law is used. Literally what you are doing is changing the volume of the cylinder, which with the same stroke length creates a lower cylinder pressure = lower torque. Since cylinder pressure and boost are versly perportional, you could, IN EXAMPLE, 7psi@10.5:1 compression=~225whp, but at the same time 10psi@9.5:1=~225whp.

But what happens when you are outside of boost??? Well 10.5:1=~210psi BUT 9.5:1=~190psi. What do you think that does to torque? Right less push.

Another thing to think about...Where is your turbo efficiency at? would it be most efficient at 7psi or at 10psi? Cause if you could create the same power at 7psi or at 10psi, but the turbo is ~74% efficient at 7psi, but 66% efficient at 10psi. Then if you lower compression, you are going to be slower out of boost, and less efficient in boost, in theory lowering your peak power cap for your setup. Which i suppose could easily be fixed with the right wheel and trim, but none-the-less i think you see my point.
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now I get, well explained! so what is a good turbo to run on stock internals?

Qveon, did u ever make a run on a 1/4 mile? if so what did you run?
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Gt2860 with T3 exhaust housing
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are what i have been hearing from crowd. I cant tell you personally i havnt done all the math on compressor maps yet.
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Where do you guys buy your kits?
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Where do you guys buy your kits?
get a custom kit man pre-made kits arent that good and for the price they cost, custom is the way to go.
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I just don't know where to buy this stuff?
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I just don't know where to buy this stuff?
Bro... don't take this the wrong way but it seems to me you need to do a LOT more research and planning... TRUST ME when I say this because it will save you many headaches! I have had an on-going headache to turbo my lude and I have been slowly going at it since I got my car about 5+ years ago.. My car has been down for almost a year now.. you run into a lot of little things and also if your not doing it yourself PLEASE DO YOURSELF A FAVOR and FIND A GOOD REPUTABLE SHOP that knows what they are doing and GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING no matter how cool the shop people are... Another thing you gotta ask yourself is do you mind having downtime on your lude? Do have another accessible vehicle? What I did was buy a long block and build that on the side.. GOOD LUCK
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Actually i dont get my liscense for another year. I have researched, im buying a seperate block to build on the side so i can get it sleeved, honed, and the crank balanced, i truly think i have an idea of what i trying to do,

I really just DONT know where to buy parts for a custon turbo kit and i still need to find a good shop in the tri-state area.
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hey guys i am looking to turbo my lude and i found a turbo kit on ebay that has been selling for about a grand and is already premade for an h22 motor so you dont have to take out the ac and power steering but it says it will add 100hp with only 8psi to a stock h22. You think this kit is ok?

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im gettin a agp 50 trim, with custom manifold, apex inrecooler and piping and some type of manual turbo controller.
the guy had like 420hp at 18 psi but ill be at 7 for a while unless someone would like to sell some internals for cheep!lol
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oh and can't 4get the hks bov! pickin it up on tuesday! ill be back for help so don't worry guys!lol

but thanks for the help!
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wait so you dont have a license yet and you already want to spend in excess of 10,000...easy?
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exctly! actually I found a build block for 1500 and the turbo fo 1k, so im on pace to spend under 5k
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