tilton clutch review - Honda Prelude Forum

nuro · 02-17-2006, 06:22 AM

I just drove my car with the cerametallic twin-disc tiltion clutch and flywheel assembly for the first time.

I figured some people here may want to hear about it. Let me start off by saying that the first time i drove my brother's integra type R with an exedy three puck i only stalled the car ONCE (finding the engagment point) and never since then - and i feel comfortable in traffic with it, although its not "fun" to be caught in traffic with a clutch like that.

Well this thing, my friends, is a whole other story... The pedal is fairly but not painfully stiff. The clutch engagement is truly on/off as one would expect. But its unsprung so unlike some exedy or CM models, there is not even a little area to slip the clutch. Of course you have to slip it to start in first though, and the car will let you know it doesnt like that with all kinds of fun noises that may scare pedestrians.

Within the first 50 yards i stalled the car maybe 5 or 6 times. Once i got near my house i only stalled it a few. I think i'll be able to get used to it but by no means is it easy or "a compromise". It is DIFFICULT to drive. Right now i feel like a bimbo must when she learns how to drive stick: "OMG NO! a red light on an uphill climb!"

Anyway, we'll see how quick i get used to it. and by getting used to it i mean not stalling anymore becasue i don't think it will ever be "easy" or "natural". All this said, clutches also get easier when you break them in so i'm only at about 25 miles so far

Bottom line: do i regret it? no. you need it for certain power levels. the car got from point A to B so its not "unpossible"

forbidden710 · 02-17-2006, 06:32 AM

are you one boost?

nuro · 02-17-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by forbidden710

are you one boost?

in progress. as driven, no the car is not boosting yet. at this point the car has my rebuilt engine, tranny, and a bunch of other goodies on it but no turbo just to keep the troubleshooting simple. but that would change nothing for this review anyway

buh_buh · 02-17-2006, 03:30 PM

thats good to know. Please keep us updated. I was looking at this for my next clutch when my current one wears out.

Girl n-a Lude · 02-17-2006, 03:53 PM

nice! you finally went for it

I was tempted to as well when I started shopping for a replacement clutch for the lude, but I've been allocating funds to the dc2 now. i've been wondernig how the tilton felt

forbidden710 · 02-17-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Girl n-a Lude

nice! you finally went for it

I was tempted to as well when I started shopping for a replacement clutch for the lude, but I've been allocating funds to the dc2 now. i've been wondernig how the tilton felt

you have a dc2.. can we see some pics?

h22 bb6 · 02-17-2006, 08:53 PM

Tilton is pretty extreme for the 350z's, I would assume it would be the same for Preludes.

nuro · 02-18-2006, 07:54 PM

i will let you guys know if with time i become 100% confident with it in daily driving situations. going through town today i stalled once at every other red light

. it is nothing short of learning how to use a clutch all over again.

my bro, who daily drives his ITR with an exedy 3 puck, tried the car and basically couldn't get it to budge. after he stalled it 10 times in a row he drove it two blocks and gave up again. this should give you some indication as to how extreme it is.

Girl n-a Lude · 02-18-2006, 08:39 PM

then again, the exedy 3 puck on my teg is ridiculously driveable. theres hope for me yet!

nuro · 02-20-2006, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Girl n-a Lude

then again, the exedy 3 puck on my teg is ridiculously driveable. theres hope for me yet!

i totally agree. after 15 minutes of getting used to the new engagement point, stiffness, and so on, its definetely daily driveable.

i have come to the conclusion that with the tilton, no matter how good a driver you are, there is no such thing as a gentle start in first gear.

h22 bb6 · 02-20-2006, 06:01 PM

^So let the vehicle in front of you get a good jump before you start rolling.

vtec_power · 02-20-2006, 08:38 PM

What is the diameter of the disc? and which torqu capacity do you have the 740? or the other one with 350, i think... thx

nuro · 02-21-2006, 02:40 AM

i dont know. as far as i knew there was only one choice when i ordered....

vtec_power · 02-21-2006, 11:50 AM

really, sry i must be talking about the wrong one...

Senate1123 · 03-05-2006, 02:19 AM

the tilton carbon-carbon twin disc on a cable b-series tranny feels nice. truly an on/off switch though. i think all tiltons r like that. did u get the hydraulic clutch release bearing from tilton? itll make the clutch ALOT lighter. i put one in a 4dr dc2 with the bearing and the clutch felt like stock but it grabbed like a race clutch. hope u get used to it...i think the best way to "learn" is to just ride on it a bit til u get used to the engagement point. ive yet to see these clutches fail.

nuro · 03-06-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Senate1123

the tilton carbon-carbon twin disc on a cable b-series tranny feels nice. truly an on/off switch though. i think all tiltons r like that. did u get the hydraulic clutch release bearing from tilton? itll make the clutch ALOT lighter. i put one in a 4dr dc2 with the bearing and the clutch felt like stock but it grabbed like a race clutch. hope u get used to it...i think the best way to "learn" is to just ride on it a bit til u get used to the engagement point. ive yet to see these clutches fail.

i in no way regret the purchase, but i wouldnt daily drive as it is (or as I am).

i have the cerametallic. i don't have the hydraulic clutch cylinder. however the stiffness doesn't bother me. yes, its stiffer, but no, its not "bad".

Senate1123 · 03-06-2006, 06:17 PM

haha u shouldnt regret the purchase. thats the last clutch ull ever buy for this car. as for the stiffness i dunno how it is on an h22 ive only done it on a b-series. at any rate...congrats on the great choice in clutches.

nuro · 04-11-2006, 07:09 AM

at this point if i have to start uphill i straight up scare pedestrians because the tires squeel at a start

ChrisRicketts · 04-20-2006, 01:22 AM

i think you may just have to launch it at every red light if you don't want to stall. i had the CM stage 5, which i think was also very driveable. it chattered quite a bit, but it wasn't quite on/off as what you're talking about. it was easy to learn after a couple days of using it. the pedal pressure wasn't much more than stock either. but it grabbed when you needed it to. i doubt i'd recommend it though. i was looking at the tilton also, but this is my daily driver, and that doesn't sound very comfortable for traffic. (launching every 12 seconds to move 2 cars up.)

nuro · 04-21-2006, 03:53 AM

ive driven it about 500 miles now. no, its not comfortable for traffic i avoid traffic like the plague. your terms are more or less right, its like a mini-launch every time you want to move the car.

ChrisRicketts · 04-21-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nuro

ive driven it about 500 miles now. no, its not comfortable for traffic i avoid traffic like the plague. your terms are more or less right, its like a mini-launch every time you want to move the car.

i bet you dread the day a cop is beside you at a red light. he'll probably think you're wanting to race him. you'll have to let him go first about 50ft before you take off.

nuro · 04-21-2006, 04:12 PM

the day a cop is next to me at a red light is the day i get pulled over. if i launch the car slowly (im getting better) the clutch makes a whale-like sound. yes, willy lives in my gearbox and wants to be freed.