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Old 05-06-2010, 06:49 PM   #41 (permalink)
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rofl. there's power to be made. to decide its futile is complete bull****. just b/c one car is cheaper to make "faster" than another means jack ****. im sorry TJ but this is some weak ****. it will taken money to get power (im talking things like 300whp n/a and 600whp f/i, turbo of course) but it can def be done
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sure, take some pics of your parts, and we can try to figure out what you have. to tell you the truth I've been out of the modding loop for a long time now, so it's difficult for me to suggest parts.

what you can do is basically just search and read what's on the different Prelude sites and gather your information that way. also, Prelude people are overall very cool people and like to help people out, so you can even try to find fellow Preluders in your area and you can maybe see what things are on their cars.

in terms of a header, I'm not sure what's out that's good. I know there are a lot of replicas of high-end headers, and while I am a huge proponent against replicas, I can see the value of them for people who just can't justify purchasing the real deal.

you'd probably really enjoy your car if you threw some springs on. the prelude excels in turning!
Hey just wondering what you've got in particular against knock off headers?
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My angle is that, for the money, it's not worth the effort.
from any angle is any mod worth the money, unless your doing it to make money such as bisi, skunk2, hytech, ppl that are sponsored etc. in the end its the individual doing w/e they want. the term "fast" is subjective. would a 300whp n/a h series that can run in the 11's fast? maybe not compared to the sohc d series thats boosted to hell that ran 9's at around 145mph
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I had my share of cars in my days and yes a V8 will develop more power per mod than our little Honda's. I don't really think it's about making that over the top power (at least not for me), but more so taking a car I do enjoy driving daily and can take on HPDE, Track, Auto-X, and Drag races on the weekend, and improving it. Seeing how much I can get out of so little is a nice challenge. For those who've had the V8 power and done 11's in the quarter mile it may not be your cup of tea. I started out driving a 77 Monte Carlo with a 350 4 bolt main built to the hilt...it was stupid fast in a straight line but you'd be damned if you needed to turn the thing...lol...now the Prelude would in no way keep up with that car in the straight but I LOVE to throw her into the turns...you get the idea...point being, it's not always about being fastest, it's about enjoying what you do...
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Hey just wondering what you've got in particular against knock off headers?
please don't take this as preaching, as they're my own views!

I don't support knock off headers because I like to support the actual creator of the designs of the original part, whether it be an aero kit or a header. I just understand all of the R&D and hard work that these companies put into their designs. for a knockoff company, all they have to do is buy one copy, do no actual design work, and be able to reproduce the design at a fraction of the cost. they took no risk, put in no work, but get to reap the benefits. I do however understand that the genuine headers are extremely expensive (I personally own a Hytech header), and overall they are difficult to get, which kind of forces replicas to be made.
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please don't take this as preaching, as they're my own views!

I don't support knock off headers because I like to support the actual creator of the designs of the original part, whether it be an aero kit or a header. I just understand all of the R&D and hard work that these companies put into their designs. for a knockoff company, all they have to do is buy one copy, do no actual design work, and be able to reproduce the design at a huge fraction of the cost. they took no risk, put in no work, but get to reap the benefits. I do however understand that the genuine headers are extremely expensive (I personally own a Hytech header), and overall they are difficult to get, which kind of forces replicas to be made.
Nah no worries about the preaching thing, everyone has their own views and is entitled to share them.

Yeah I can see your point about the R&D and all the work and the original creator deserving the money for that. I guess some people are just cheap, it's kind of human nature really. My questions was wanting to see if it was because of what you said above, or because of the actual gains are not there with a knock off header. Thanks for answering the question!
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Nah no worries about the preaching thing, everyone has their own views and is entitled to share them.

Yeah I can see your point about the R&D and all the work and the original creator deserving the money for that. I guess some people are just cheap, it's kind of human nature really.)
yep, and that's why I basically accept it. nothing you can do, because people are always going to want the cheaper priced product, and I can't blame them. $400 vs $1200 is a huge discrepancy.
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Is a DC Sports Header considered a knock-off? That's what I have on my Prelude currently and was just wondering. If anyone is wondering, it didn't make any difference at all in terms of performance. I would love to have a quality header, but it's so pricey. I would much rather spend more money and go the Turbo route than to spend $1500 on a quality header. That's just me, though.
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