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Old 08-21-2002, 01:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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my jrsc dyno plot

i have a
aem short ram
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dc cc headers
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very dissappointed with numbers
was done in 3rd gear
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Where is the plot?
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try again i was resizing it it was toooo big
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Your numbers are typical for your setup. Your a/f looks uncomfortably lean at 3.5 rpm and 5.5 rpm.
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everything is still ok....its like hmmm 13.5 or so
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Old 08-21-2002, 01:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It is very hard to tell from the scrunched graph, but it appears to me that between 3.5 and 4 the a/f is above 14.
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o no on the paper it barely touches 14 or even go over

ill enlarge da pic for ya
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Old 08-21-2002, 01:46 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Ok, I see it now. Under 14 is good. Not great in my opinion, but good. That a/f is probably all that can be hoped for with the JRSC out of the box. What did they set your fuel pressure and your btc at? And why are you disappointed?
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btc is like 8-9 from min kinda high but whatever works and fuel pre i dunno he didnt see hahaha

he upped it a tad
these guys did schwett cars so they know wassup

now thatr i think about it the ## are ok cuz i have no fuel management really
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DSR is a good shop. When the day finally comes that I install all of this crap in my room, Lawrence will be doing my tuning.
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lawarence did mine...cool guy
i just tried mashin it on da way home i get squeel agan only high rp,m though

when i dynoed no sqeel
i wonder if its the long belt again
argh
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Old 08-21-2002, 07:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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o no on the paper it barely touches 14 or even go over
The fact that it's close enough to 14:1 at that low of an RPM (where you'll be spending most of your time) is bad enough.

I had to take a straight-edge against my monitor to finally figure out what ratio the car's running at, and it's nowhere near 12-13:1 until redline.

Looks like a typical lean JRSC dyno, unfortunately. Well, at least we know you did a great job on the install!

It's hard to tell by the dyno if you're belts are slipping. The torque curve just doesn't drop so fast. If you're positive about the screeching/squealing, you'd also be able to confirm it by a noticeable drop in boost pressue on your boost gauge. Tightening them up might bring you up to the ~220whp range. Still won't do anything about the lack of fuel, though.
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i think those are good solid numbers for your setup.

proper management of fuel and timing would probably yield another ten horsepower and a safer setup, but you're looking at more than a thousand bucks unless you cheap it out big time.

just enjoy the car for a while, don't touch anything, and hope your pistons stay in one piece. :knockonwood:
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BoYgUaN,

How long did you have your JRSC on before the Dyno? you may want to try to tighten up all your belts a bit, the SC belt and the serptine belt. I got a good increase after doing that. Good Luck bro!
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i had it for 1 week or so
i tightened the belts already once, while dynoing they werent slipping. i just noticed it last night. it was only during the way upper rpms like 5.5+ or even higher

when i am boosting i cant tell imma jjust tryin to hold on
so you guys dont think the a/f is ok?
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btw i have a vid clip on me on the dyno if anyone wants to let me upload it to them
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Old 08-21-2002, 12:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i think it's too lean in the midrange. it looks just about exactly like mine did. almost everyone who has been boosting a honda for any time will tell you that 14.0:1 non-intercooled at full boost is too lean. it's really quite puzzling why some users with the stock kit get a nice fat a/f and some are lean.

that said, it's pretty common on the jrsc. not a lot to do about it unless you want to spend a lot more money and possibly have a lot more problems. you'll probably get more power, incidentally, at 12.5:1 than 14.0:1. *probably*

what did lawrence say? when he dynoed mine, he said "if it was my car, i wouldn't drive it like that."

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i had it for 1 week or so
i tightened the belts already once, while dynoing they werent slipping. i just noticed it last night. it was only during the way upper rpms like 5.5+ or even higher

when i am boosting i cant tell imma jjust tryin to hold on
so you guys dont think the a/f is ok?
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i thought my base line fuel plots were better but he tuned it to that way to get more power

but during base line i am tooo lean at first
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i told him i want to be safer rather than have the little bit more power
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Old 08-21-2002, 06:07 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I netted 227.1 hp and 181.8 torque on my SC...

Only additional things I had were

AEM CAI
Mugen Headers
Mugen Exhaust
JR Oil Cooler
JR Spark Plugs


Your not to far off from what I got...
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