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Old 11-18-2002, 08:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Will the mugen exhaust be sufficient if I'm running the greddy turbo kit with the factory boost setting? Should I also change the downpipe to 3", because I heard that the diameter is very small on the Gredd kit.
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Mugen exhaust and FI do not go well together at all.
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Old 11-19-2002, 09:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm just running on 6psi. So I should change it to 3"? I'm thinking of getting the HKS titanium muffler, then do a custom piping. What about the downpipe?
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Old 11-19-2002, 11:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think 2.5" piping w/ a Apexi N1 is good for 6psi. The Mugen exhaust has the double loop which is good for NA but hinders the removal of exhaust gases for FI.
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Are you never going to turn up boost? If not, then 2.5" downpipe and either a 2.36" or 2.5" exhaust should be fine. If you think you are going to boost higher later though, you may as well get the 3" exhaust now. Is the AC in the way if you get a 3" downpipe? I know I can't do 3" without losing my AC.
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I'm not sure about the AC, I need to check. Do you have the Greddy kit too?
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I have a Maxrev kit.
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What part of the AC it would be hitting?
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What part of the AC it would be hitting?
Most likely the AC condenser.
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I thought the condenser is in the front.
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Anyone have the hks titanium muffler? What does it sound like? Is it really loud?
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Mugen exhaust and FI do not go well together at all.
Why not? I had it on my lude with a JRSC and it was fast... dyno'ed 227 hp @ wheels..

The manual for JRSC says to use a catback system with there setup... Maybe its bad for turbos but JRSC seems to run fine..


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Yeah but you might end up getting 237 with 2.50" tubeing
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Will 3" cause me to lose some power on 6psi?
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Will 3" cause me to lose some power on 6psi?
yeah, in your case you would have too little back pressure. B/c due to the large piping, your exhaust gases won't flow out as fast for 6psi. 3" is too much for the JRSC.
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Why not? I had it on my lude with a JRSC and it was fast... dyno'ed 227 hp @ wheels..

The manual for JRSC says to use a catback system with there setup... Maybe its bad for turbos but JRSC seems to run fine..


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That's becuz a turbo runs off of exhaust flow...so the theory is that a freer flowing exhaust will help spool the turbo faster and less heat will be pushed back up into the motor. With a JRSC, especially at 6 psi, the blower is not exhaust dependent and the back pressure with only 6 pounds is not likely to affect your power as much. The mugen exhaust scavenges well, looking at the loop design. Scavenging is a bigger factor for FI to an extent, but diameter eventually takes precendence depending upon how much you are boosting, etc. The exhaust flow from a JRSC is a more progressive increase in flow, whereas in a turbo setup the exhaust will come in large bursts while in boost, where the scavenging benefits are marginal and diameter is more advantageous.
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