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Old 08-13-2002, 11:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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jrsc install help asap part 2

map sensor hose on top pf throttle body...what does it go to?

i am thinking a hole on the adapter plate but i could be wrong.
instructions say connect to the open connector?????

o yea what does the tube you run into the car connect to? i dont have a stock intake so i dont have the intake controke solinoid anymore. do i even need to run the tube in?

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Old 08-14-2002, 06:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The map sensor hose just gets connected to any of the fittings on the top half of the charger. The tube you run into the car is for the JR EMS that connects to your ECU. You don't have to worry about the tube to the intake, it is for stock intakes, at least that is what JR told me when I was installing it. Hope that helps.
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Old 08-14-2002, 09:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: jrsc install help asap part 2

the black tube you run into the car goes to the EMS (black box under your seat) on one end, and any boost/vacuum port on the other end. i believe the instruction recommend one, but any of the four on the *drivers* side of the charger work.

ditto the map sensor hose. you screw the relocation plate on, screw the map sensor onto it, and then run a hose from the nipple on the plate across the charger to.... u guessed it, one of the four ports on the drivers side of the charger!

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map sensor hose on top pf throttle body...what does it go to?

i am thinking a hole on the adapter plate but i could be wrong.
instructions say connect to the open connector?????

o yea what does the tube you run into the car connect to? i dont have a stock intake so i dont have the intake controke solinoid anymore. do i even need to run the tube in?
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Old 08-14-2002, 11:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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cool. so that bl;ack tube does need to get hooked up. i thought it was just something for stock intakes .

so for the hose i run inside just t fit it to any vac hose outta da 4 ports on the plATE?

throttle cable problem. i cant really get it into the backet. anyone have this problem?
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Old 08-14-2002, 11:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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so for the hose i run inside just t fit it to any vac hose outta da 4 ports on the plATE?
english, please! i know you speak it!

yes, if i recall there's a special fitting included to mate the 1/8" rigid tube to a vacuum line. this line is VERY important. PLEASE make sure it's hooked up properly... otherwise you will have no timing retard, and shortly after that you will have no pistons.

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throttle cable problem. i cant really get it into the backet. anyone have this problem?
you can't get the throttle cable itself and the little stop at the end of it back onto the throttle body, or you can't get the bent aluminum plate that "guides" it onto the fitting which relocates the idle air control valve?
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nm i got it done
the tube from inside the car tht runs to the ems gets connected to any hose going out of the 4 ports out of the jrsc adapter plate correct?

just deciding where to cut the intake now

any sugestions? or a pic
i know u got a pic schwett
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Old 08-14-2002, 01:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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what kind of intake? if it's an iceman you have to cut it in the middle. i believe iranman just cut the end of his AEM off. search perhaps?

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the tube from inside the car tht runs to the ems gets connected to any hose going out of the 4 ports out of the jrsc adapter plate correct?

just deciding where to cut the intake now

any sugestions? or a pic
i know u got a pic schwett
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its a aem short ram.....
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its a aem short ram.....
I would try bending the bracket on the intake to see if that will get it to fit right first. If you need to do any cutting, cut at the throttle body end and only small amounts at a time. You can always cut more, but you can't add any back.
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Old 08-14-2002, 04:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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you definitely won't get it fit by bending anything. you'll need to cut off the throttle body end, maybe 2" or so.

you know the saying : measure TWICE, cut once.

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I would try bending the bracket on the intake to see if that will get it to fit right first. If you need to do any cutting, cut at the throttle body end and only small amounts at a time. You can always cut more, but you can't add any back.
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hmmm argh the fuel pump was so difficult
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everything is wired up...
the timing knob....i want it to be pretty safe till i tune it
is it suppose to be safer towards max or min? i might just put it in the middle.....what setting do you think i can possible go to very safely
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MAX = max retard = safer.

the car will drive..... badly.... with it all the way up there. i would put it a bit past halfway, meaning a bit closer to MAX than halfway. set your static fuel pressure around 70psi. take a spin and give it a few stabs of full throttle at 4000rpm or so in 2nd gear. if you don't hear any sort of strange clicking / rapping / metallic buzzing sounds from the motor, back the BTC off "towards" min a click or two at a time.

on 91 octane gas with the stock injectors i would NEVER turn it closer to "min" than 4 clicks. NEVER. i'd start getting nervous around 5 clicks even if it sounded fine.

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hmmm argh the fuel pump was so difficult
payind da membership is so useful cuz i get such good info from guys like you

everything is wired up...
the timing knob....i want it to be pretty safe till i tune it
is it suppose to be safer towards max or min? i might just put it in the middle.....what setting do you think i can possible go to very safely
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cool.....i was planning to not mess with the fuel pressure. i was goung to go to dyno spot and get it tuned. i think the going rate is 185 fir 1 hr plus tuning. i will just let them mess with it

how did you like dyno spot?
i am kinda scared cuz your motor blew after you got the jrsc was installed by them but i know it wasnt really their fault. i think they are better than thunder alley.

back to my situation
its ok to leave the afpr set stock from jrsc right?

my car is ready to go. i just need to modify the intakje which is pretty confusing to do.

argh
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you installed a fuel pressure gauge, didn't you? i would at least verify what it is set at. didn't you buy the kit used? how do you know what the fmu is set at!?!?

dynospot is great. no regrets at all, i would definitely go back again. say hi to lawrence for me.

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cool.....i was planning to not mess with the fuel pressure. i was goung to go to dyno spot and get it tuned. i think the going rate is 185 fir 1 hr plus tuning. i will just let them mess with it

how did you like dyno spot?
i am kinda scared cuz your motor blew after you got the jrsc was installed by them but i know it wasnt really their fault. i think they are better than thunder alley.

back to my situation
its ok to leave the afpr set stock from jrsc right?

my car is ready to go. i just need to modify the intakje which is pretty confusing to do.

argh
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no the kit was used i guess but it was new
the guy bought it and never installed it. everything was still sealed...

ok everything is in
i had a few problems starting but it was cuz i flooded the motor looking for fuel leaks
my ps adapter leaks
i tightened it down alil more and it stripped the bolt. it wasnt even that tight. it leaked where it met the ps pump right? fluids got all over the place argh...
should i tell em i stripped the bolt
i tried to tqe to 10 lbs and it stripped wtf

i also get quite a bit of lag below 2k rpm. i thought it was a belt but i turned the btm down 2 clicks and it felt better. what is it good to et it at

also do u guys go from alll the way on min<past the letters> or just from the min bar....<at the letters>

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when we refer to clicks past min, we're referring to the minimum point of adjustment; i.e. you turn it as far as possible counterclockwise then start back, counting the clicks.

check carefully where your ps adapter is leaking from. the early ones leaked through the fitting itself. you could see this by idling the motor, and having someone turn the wheels while you watch the adapter. the fluid drips straight through it. if that's your problem, you need a new one and JR will supply it no questions asked. if it's leaking at the joint, then you have a different problem. did you strip the BOLT or the threads in the socket? you sure the o-ring is in good shape in there?

as far as "what is it good to et it at" we already discussed that! DO NOT just "turn it down" because the car feels better. you need to be very careful about this. maybe you should relabel it, "blown motor," and "responsive car" instead of "min" and "max."

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no the kit was used i guess but it was new
the guy bought it and never installed it. everything was still sealed...

ok everything is in
i had a few problems starting but it was cuz i flooded the motor looking for fuel leaks
my ps adapter leaks
i tightened it down alil more and it stripped the bolt. it wasnt even that tight. it leaked where it met the ps pump right? fluids got all over the place argh...
should i tell em i stripped the bolt
i tried to tqe to 10 lbs and it stripped wtf

i also get quite a bit of lag below 2k rpm. i thought it was a belt but i turned the btm down 2 clicks and it felt better. what is it good to et it at

also do u guys go from alll the way on min<past the letters> or just from the min bar....<at the letters>
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no i turned it down but its still not past the half way mark.
i called and left a message

chwett do you think you can find a pic of iranman's engine bay with the aem short ram
i tried searching everywhere but nothing.
i am having a problem modifying my intake hahaha

thx basil
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Old 08-15-2002, 11:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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iranman posted a pretty good description of what he did to get his aem to fit here :

Minor Issue after installing intake

but of course, since you did a search you already found that one, right?
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i found that but i am looking for more or less a picture....i really want to keep the tab there so it wont move

hmmm should i just cut my intake in half and do it that way? its alil late cuz i cut the tb side already and argh i sholda done it like you mark
it would be so much easier/faster
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by the way, please tell me you're not running without an intake......................

the blower has really tight tolerances, and running it without a filter is super super bad. a tiny bit of sand kicked up from the road in that guy and it's toast.
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no i ghetto rigged it...ii used the dryer hose then put my kn on da back hahahaha looks cheap but it works
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