I have a Greddy Turbo on my 98 and it is due for smog testing this March. I didn't know it was not street legal. Does the guy need to actually lift the hood to see the turbo and then he fails you? Sounds like I am going back to NA.
HEy Nick!! ....how you been!? Your..err...my lude is running..somewhat good......
So does that mean that I would not pass emissions even if I get the Emanage Ultimate or the AEM EMS!!??? and get it tunned properly?? damn so I better get me a stock set-up(intake/ headers/ exhaust) and get me stock injectors.........OR SOMETHING, so I can take it to the test and pass...........but I have till next March to worry about that......not to far away though
HEy Nick!! ....how you been!? Your..err...my lude is running..somewhat good......
So does that mean that I would not pass emissions even if I get the Emanage Ultimate or the AEM EMS!!??? and get it tunned properly?? damn so I better get me a stock set-up(intake/ headers/ exhaust) and get me stock injectors.........OR SOMETHING, so I can take it to the test and pass...........but I have till next March to worry about that......not to far away though
Old thread FTW!
I thought Arizona had no emissions testing....
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I know its an old thread.....and yes Arizona does have emissions but I think is only required in the metro areas(major cities) i.e; Tucson, Phoenix, etc........
So does that mean that I would not pass emissions even if I get the Emanage Ultimate or the AEM EMS!!???
The Greddy kit is not carb exempt. ITs not carb exempt if you run it with blue box and its still not exempt if you run it on emanage. The intercooler kit is also not carb exempt. There are stickers for both the intercooler kit and turbo kit.
AEM EMS is moving even farther away from carb exempt.
Problem: Japanese sportscar needs more power
Idea: Turbocharge car
Problem #2: Local government says you can't turbocharge your car, but lets other cars run a turbocharged engine legally.
Solution: Sell underpowered car, buy a factory turbo car.
Problem: Japanese sportscar needs more power
Idea: Turbocharge car
Problem #2: Local government says you can't turbocharge your car, but lets other cars run a turbocharged engine legally.
Solution: Sell underpowered car, buy a factory turbo car.
finis
OR move sumwhere were they careless such as Florida.
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when i had my fully build turbo lude w/no cat/straight thur 3" N1..w/it runnin a bit rich.
i never had problem passin inspection... i really think is only cali. got that carb legal crap.
gott pay to play w/boost...
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No problem here in Ca, just don't do anything to get pulled over and return everything to stock for smog tests.
That's what I'm going to have to do...I'm gonna have to find me a header/downpipe, intake and block off the turbo fittings(oil,vaccum, etc..) and disconnect the "blue box".
OR move sumwhere were they careless such as Florida.
I DO happen to live in Florida where nobody cares about emissions. Too bad I can't take advantage of it because I'm GOING to California in a year. There's no point in building my car the way I want only to have to return it to stock again after twelve months.
I've never understood the logic in the argument that if you can't stand emissions check rules preventing you from modifying your car you should move to some obscure city to avoid it.
As if a car is the only important thing in someone's life... :P
When a turbo kit is given a CARB EO number it is done so as a COMPLETE KIT. This means ANYTHING you do to modify the kit in anyway will change the emissions as compared to the EO test.
Because of this, any additional modification including a BOV, intercooler, oil cooler or larger injectors will invalidate the CARB EO.
Also, on a side note, any turbo kit with a user tunable ECU will never be carb approved because the user can change timing, fuel and such. This means Emanage, AEM EMS etc. will never be approved for EO.
Ever noticed how the Greddy kits which are EO approved use a non-tunable blue box?
When a turbo kit is given a CARB EO number it is done so as a COMPLETE KIT. This means ANYTHING you do to modify the kit in anyway will change the emissions as compared to the EO test.
Because of this, any additional modification including a BOV, intercooler, oil cooler or larger injectors will invalidate the CARB EO.
Also, on a side note, any turbo kit with a user tunable ECU will never be carb approved because the user can change timing, fuel and such. This means Emanage, AEM EMS etc. will never be approved for EO.
Ever noticed how the Greddy kits which are EO approved use a non-tunable blue box?
So how does a BOV make it not carb legal? What does it do to emmissions that makes it not legal?
Because the kit is carb approved NOT the kit with the BOV with it.
An addition of a BOV is a change to the CARB approved kit and therefore the CARB approved kit is altered thus the CARB EO negated. It doesnt matter if the actual emmissions are altered or not, just that the kit is changed.
In order to have the BOV carb approved the maker of the kit would have to pay the state refs to test the kit with the specific type of BOV and then pay for another CARB EO # (which is VERY expensive). Even then, it would only be issued a carb eo number for 1 specific BOV.
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