Well i finally broke down and went turbo. As i type this my engine is being built with; darton sleeves, arias pistons, eagle rods, balanced crank, all new bearings, full ferra valve train, port polish and valve job, skunk 2 turbo cams, AEM ems with wideband, greddy turbo kit with greddy bov and spec R intercooler. I already have full feul system including walbro *sp feul pump, aem fpr and feul rail, and rc 310 injectors soon to be replaced by 370s from the greddy kit. Tein type flex suspension with edfc, act clutch and 9lb fidanza flywheel, new synchros and a quaife lsd. Tanabe front and rear sway bars, accel ignition, front and rear spoon strut bars, and a 75 wet shot from NX. I cant wait till the engine and turbo are done and i will post the dyno plots as soon as i have them but i plan to have at least 350hp to the wheels.
Please forgive any spelling, im typing fast haha Im out, to go dream of eating M3's
AFAIK Skunk2 doesn't have turbo cams for the H series. I know some places are selling the Skunk2 stage 1 cams as turbo cams and you can tell because they have identical product numbers. You better make sure you didn't get ripped off.
You can check the website and no where do they mention turbo cams for H series:
yeah i agree with Twitz......crower on the other hand, does make turbo cams for the h series.
Even still, beautiful set-up, everything and more i could want 4 my ride.
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There is no reason to build a motor like that only to run the Greddy kit. I have done it. The Greddy kit wont make the kind of power you are looking for.
Congratulations! you just fell down the slippery slope of turbo! before you know it you will only hit 240 with the Greddy kit and have to spend $$$$ for a new turbo, manifold, wastegate, injectors and a new tune. Only to get bored of 330 when you reach it.
On the other hand ... I can save you some time ... my motor was done nearly identical to yours and I have AEM EMS maps tuned by john Reed for a built motor with the Greddy kit and a built motor with a Gattett t3/T4. PM me if you are interested.
Well we will see what kind of power i make. The shop that is doing it has built some pretty powerful preludes and i trust them with this build. Maybe i will be dissapointed but i highly doubt it. But thanks for the umm... advice. This is a work in progress and the motor was the main priority in this build, the turbo can be changed later with less hassle, and there are plenty of people that will buy this used kit in my area.
Also this is my first turbo car/build, so i like the ease of buying a kit over piecign my own together and if i want more power then i can just replace parts later, i know its not the most cost efficient way of doing things but im sure i will be satisfied with what this will give me for now.
I might be miss read but did he said he replaceing his RC310 to RC370 injector? Why so small injector should he be going with 550 or 750 if he aiming at at least 300whp?
with my built motor and greddy kit + my custom 3in DP, AEM EMS on 550cc injectors I STILL only made 240 on the Greddy kit. with 370cc from the kit you are looking at 215-220 topps.
Congrats on your soon to be set up. Out of curiosity, why not go with a bigger turbo and no nitrous? You could easily make the same power, and since you're building your motor, might as well not let all that hard work go to waste! Congrats again tho
Im not going to run the nitrous anymore, if anything i will just fill it with co2 and spray it on the intercooler since it will just be laying around in my garage. I am upgrading the injectors, it was a missunderstanding about the 370s that come with the kit. I am seriously confused about the whole greddy turbo kit situation. I have personally seen a built prelude at my builders shop lay down 350 hp with the greddy kit. But Keahistight is so adamant about the low power it makes. I am not saying he is wrong, its just confusing. I hope you can feel what i mean. I even called greddy and talked to one of their techs about the 18g turbo, and he said it was good up to 400hp. I know that it is his job to promote their products but why lie about it? I have even brought up the size of the turbo with my builder and he is so confident about it being able to make over 300... I guess i will either be dissapointed like Keah was, and have to piece another kit together, or i will be -pleasantly suprised. At least i will have a good foundation in the motor.
Also skunk2 does sell stage one and 2 turbo cams for the h22, you just have to call them, they are not listed.
I believe Keah, knows the info because he had the kit so the information you are getting is first hand experience the other person who i know had this kit is this guy >>>> http://www.cardomain.com/ride/190116/1 <<<< he sold his prelude though he says the kit is sh*t i think you can track his post on H-T his screen name i think is boost addict. http://www.honda-tech.com/garage?cmd=viewcar&id=1915
Hey, thats two guys right off the top of my head who had this installed and they say it is garbage. man c'mon im no turbo guru but dude im researching alot so i dont make rookie mistakes so i read, read, read some more and research and listen to guys who have experience.
I have been reading books now for 3months with all the turbo combinations, math, kits, and calculations possible for honda engines and i still learn something new everyday....from what i've read and that turbo size TD05/TD06H-18G its a small turbo! not sure if capable of 400 ponies
i have been researching, going on 4 years now. THe greddy kit is always bragged on for quality which is important to me. Also i have seen as many bad reports as good from owners of the kit. Believe me im taking Keah's advice into consideration and using it as feul to grill my builder. We all know that everythign breaks down to tuning and the strength of your build. im going with the greddy kit and will post initial dynos by the end of july and full boost dynos by end of august. Then all questions will be answered for me
The Greddy kit is far from garbage, it just doesn't net ub3r ridiculous power that's not even needed for a front wheel drive car.
^^Exactly.
I have never said the kit was total garbage. It is a super good quality kit that is by far the most complete out there.
HOWEVER, you will NEVER make 300WHP on it. Just like Shark said, it is a great kit but it is meant for STOCK motors and it is not capable of high HP.
When I ran it, I loved it. I just got bored of the power REALLY, REALLY quickly. I tried to make more on that kit but I learned the turbo is not capable of doing so.
See, not everyone has the option of going full custom on a built motor; without spending assloads of money on good tunes you asking for a basketful of headaches.
Well i finally broke down and went turbo.
as i have them but i plan to have at least 350hp to the wheels.
Please forgive any spelling, im typing fast haha Im out, to go dream of eating M3's
This guy wants to make 350-400hp not likely to happen. When i say garbage i meant as far as that kind of power from this kit and not the product cmon folks.
Well i will post dyno plots and we will see either way. I never thought to get to 400 but 350 seemed possible. Its to late now as the kit is already here, so yay for a super quality kit that may be way under my needs. Thanks for everyones input especially keah and Shark. No matter what the results of this are, by the end of the month i Will have a force fed lude, and i will enjoy it. Peace
keah is not lying. the greddy kit is excellent quality, but not the greatest power adder. from light to light, its great. boost onset is near immediate. forget about high end pull tho.
keah, just curious how much boost u were runnin for 240? and the 3" dp - did it include the cast exhaust elbow?
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