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Old 04-23-2003, 03:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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FI exhaust question

i need an opinion. im ordering the revhard turbo kit from afterhourz for my SH.
I currently have a greddy evo exhaust (2.25in piping) just put it on like a month ago. my question is, the kit comes with a 2.5" DP then i have a stock cat and then the evo cat back, will this be too constrictive for my FI set up (7psi)? and if so, what problems will i run in to? too much back pressure causing slower spooling?

I did use the search forums before i asked this so dont yell at me just yet.

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Old 04-23-2003, 03:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm thinking that will be too small. You will probably want to customize some 2.5" piping and get an apexi n1 muffler or something similar.
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Old 04-23-2003, 04:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you won't make as much power thats for sure. If thats not a problem then you're set
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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get a brullen exhaust or get the custom piping form this place

http://www.accordinglydone.com/store...hp?cPath=21_27
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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In my experience with my JRSC, a 2.5" downpipe mated to the stock cat and exhaust increased apparent manifold pressure (causing detonation, had to retard timing) and dropped midrange performance. When the exhaust is smaller in diameter than the downpipe, the exhaust becomes a bottleneck. I highly suggest a custom 2.5" exhaust. The stock exhaust is only 2" in diameter!
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Old 04-24-2003, 03:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I already have an evo exhaust (2.25") as stated above so im not running any 2" exhaust. Also when i bought my new exhaust i noticed it was the same diameter as the other cat-back (the one i took off) which seemed strange to me, however my car was totaled before i bought it (this is the reason i have a 12gal fuel tank also) so i wasnt too surprised.
On a side note, my Evo exhaust bolted straight up to the flange on my catalytic converter which means it is also 2.25", does anyone know the outlet size of the stock cat?
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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So Shark, what you are saying is that a 2.5 downpipe isn't a good idea because it may cause detonation even with a 2.5 custom exhaust? I am looking into getting a 25inch piping job done with stock cat and AC Revolution exhaust, how is that for a FI set up?
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Old 04-24-2003, 10:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Huh? No, I said that a 2.5" downpipe performs poorly with a smaller diameter exhaust, at least in my experience. I was able to stave off the detonation by adjusting the timing. I think it is best to run an exhaust equal to or larger than the downpipe.
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Old 04-24-2003, 10:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I already have an evo exhaust (2.25") as stated above so im not running any 2" exhaust.
Woops, my bad, I did read that, but wasn't thinking when I posted. Still, you would be better off with a 2.5" exhaust, or perhaps larger (including downpipe) depending on how much boost you plan on running. The EVO was not designed with FI in mind (and it is 60 mm, not 2.25", by the way).
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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so i suppose the conclusion would be that a 2.5" exhaust (with 2.5" cat) would be better with my 2.5" DP at 7psi. however, i am planning on upping my boost someday and seeing as i just got my evo (now gonna have to resell) i think im gonna go straight to 3" exhaust to save me the hassle of redoing my exhaust a 3rd time like i would if i got a 2.5" now.
will 3" cause too little back pressure at 7psi?
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No need for backpressure if your FI
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yeah i realize that but doesnt too large of exhaust piping cause blow by or is that something different?
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so then why do some people run 3" exhaust and some run 2.5"???
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hell buscher racing as a 3.5 inch exhaust for DSM and the turbo outlet is 2.5 IIRC but most people decide on the exhaust size from how much boost they will be running and the DSMs can withstand some crazy pressures hence the 3.5 inch exhaust
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so the higher the boost the bigger the piping....say i were to push i dunno ~15-20psi(just for example sakes) it would be good to have 3"???
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so the higher the boost the bigger the piping....say i were to push i dunno ~15-20psi(just for example sakes) it would be good to have 3"???
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so there will be no ill effects by having a2.5 or 3" exhaust at 7psi correct? and if thats true then i should just get 3 so when/if i up my boost i will have neccessary piping right?
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