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Old 05-29-2002, 08:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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F-max, Greddy, Drag...?

I have heard alot about the F-max and now the Greddy, but I haven't heard too many good things about the Drag kit. I have installed turbos on a few mustangs so I am familiar with them, though I don't know a thing about using them on a 5th gen prelude. Which is better, or is it just preference? Which is best with a Hondata?
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Old 05-30-2002, 05:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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None of them really work better with a hondata, but you should be able to order the fmax kit atleast without any fuel management, so that could save you some money.

As far as which one is better, its all up for grabs, the greddy is too new, and good and bad numbers have come from fmax and drag setups. Fitment wise, the fmax kit is decent, but your installing a turbo kit on a car that wasn't really meant for it, so there is always a little custom work that needs to be done. I like the manifold design of the greddy kit, but its pretty expensive once you add the intercooler. I think the fmax-engine management is a pretty good setup to add the hondata to, but I'm biased because thats what my setup was.
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Old 05-30-2002, 09:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was leaning toward the F-max all along but I think that I like the extra boost possible with the 18G on the greddy kit. All I really want is a manifold and turbo. I can get a custom I/C or aftercooler, upgrade my injectors, and once I learn more about the Hondata, tune it. Maybe I am thinking that the Hondata is more that it is. This of course is after I get rid of the trash internals that came stock. Greddy seams to have a nice header
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the overboost/drag kit is good.
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I was leaning toward the F-max all along but I think that I like the extra boost possible with the 18G on the greddy kit. All I really want is a manifold and turbo. I can get a custom I/C or aftercooler, upgrade my injectors, and once I learn more about the Hondata, tune it. Maybe I am thinking that the Hondata is more that it is. This of course is after I get rid of the trash internals that came stock. Greddy seams to have a nice header

You'll still need to get BOV, wastegate, downpipe, IC piping and IC, but if you do go custom, I'd look an the maxrev.com manifolds, they are really nice looking.
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Old 05-31-2002, 04:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i know that greddy can make a good kit, but the catch is that they wont sell out individial parts, in case you have an emergency or anything, and the fuel management that comes with it is kinda shady, and to really custom tune it, you need to buy extra stuff. you also need to buy the greddy intercooler, or any, but if you want greddy, expect something expensive.

in my opinion, it seems as though greddy is just trying to make as much money as possible and use their name to promote it, but thats just me.

f-max is a good kit, when installed properly. f-max sells out their parts, has a STRONG manifold, and you dont have to get the whole kit. also, they include an intercooler with their kit, and f-max intercoolers are VERY good. only problem with the f-max setup is the wastegate. change out the deltagate for a tial.

drag... ive never ehard anything but bad about.
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i know that greddy can make a good kit, but the catch is that they wont sell out individial parts, in case you have an emergency or anything, and the fuel management that comes with it is kinda shady, and to really custom tune it, you need to buy extra stuff. you also need to buy the greddy intercooler, or any, but if you want greddy, expect something expensive.

in my opinion, it seems as though greddy is just trying to make as much money as possible and use their name to promote it, but thats just me.

f-max is a good kit, when installed properly. f-max sells out their parts, has a STRONG manifold, and you dont have to get the whole kit. also, they include an intercooler with their kit, and f-max intercoolers are VERY good. only problem with the f-max setup is the wastegate. change out the deltagate for a tial.

drag... ive never ehard anything but bad about.
I agree with the greddy comments, though I might consider the greddy IC if you could buy it alone if I was building a custom kit.
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Old 06-01-2002, 01:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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f max manifold is terrible if you want to upsize the turbo. You need to shave the block. I was looking into a drag 4 that I can get next week, but no one has pictures of the h22 manifold. Has anyone tried a sfp turbo kit? I like the greddy kit a lot, because I can get it for cheaper then normal, but I have seen with teg owners that the top end isn't that impressive.
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the f-max manifold isnt that bad for a bigger turbo, ask a lot of these guys that have the e series.

all it takes is a little work. i'd rather have quality over a space saver
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Basically the only thing I like about the Greddy is the manifold and turbo. I do not back anything else in that kit. I would get extras seperate any way. If I could come across a manifild and turbo, I would be happy. The rest is cake, or at least for the most part.
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This is supposedly the Drag Gen 4 manifold.



Hmm... I guess it doesn't like images without a image extension. You just have to click on it.
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How good are drag turbos? How reliable are they? Are they good for sustained 12-15 psi? I am not looking to drag race with any of these turbos, I want to road race and auto cross. I am just not happy with my stock low end power. I ate up my friends modified mustang on Skyline drive in NOVA this weeked in the turns, but he would catch up on the straights, this is what I want to improve.

Oh yeah, preludes handle well while drifting, especially for an experienced rear wheel driver.
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the drag 4 manifold doesn't look to bad. I think I will get it. Anyone have experience with sfp turbo kit? It is getting real hard to get a drag 4, everyone says its not out yet , but the distributor say it is.
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None of the kits have the fuel management to be able to do 12-15psi daily. Otherwise the Drag kit is just about like the rest.

The Gen 4 manifold does look nice, doesn't it. That's about as solid as they get. It's really squat, too. I'm not certain what the fitment would be like, but it looks good. About the only thing I don't like is the wastegate placement on the one runner.
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The mp motorsports equal runner turbo manifold will be out in about a month and it is affordable at 500 bucks.
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Just about everyone is making manifolds lately.
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This is supposedly the Drag Gen 4 manifold.



Hmm... I guess it doesn't like images without a image extension. You just have to click on it.
Is that so? It looks like we'll be seeing how it performs sometime soon, then:

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=201249
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That looks so nice and solid. I wonder if Ben can get me just the manifold.
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he can it just takes 3-4 weeks. Already ordering one, maybe.
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