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Old 12-01-2009, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ECU issue

i am about to boost my prelude 97
it stock now manual ofcourse

i never decided on the option they gave me in the shop about the ECU
they gave me this 3 options AEM/MOTEK/ALTEK
i aint to much in to the aftermarket things if anyone can help me here with what to pick for the project it will be great also which spec should i get for getting a safe boos up to 300 HP ? i bought a mainfold ceramic one
i need ECU the turbo and intercooler and injectors i dont want to touch the velves and the block so help me here and offer me some spec
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Well, you have a few other options also. You can get a P28 or P72 (Civic VTEC and Integra VTEC) computers, and backdate to OBD1 with a relatively inexpensive jumper harness. Then you can run a Hondata S300, which is familiar to most Honda tuners, and plenty capable for what you want to run on a stock block (I know you know, but...yeah, it might blow up ). This of course would get you thrown in jail if you tried to get an emissions test in California.
The AEM, MOTEK, and ALTEK are all great, but unlike the Hondata, they're standalone ECUs, and require a lot more tuning. For really serious builds, all the good tuners I've talked to love the AEM, because it is a much more powerful computer than any chipped ECU. This only matters with the 1000 hp cars, though, for your application the Hondata s300 would be a very safe setup. I'm running an 8-9psi Jackson blower on an s300, and I really like it.
Bottom line, you can get the s300 for 500-600, the AEM is usually around $1000 or more, and tuning can be more also. The Hondata will plug and play, also, as far as the jumper harness goes, if you go that route.
As for injectors, I'd go with Russ Collins (RC) injectors. If you're doing 6-8 psi, I'd go with 550cc, especially if you're at a lower altitude. If you're shooting for 300hp, you might step up into the 650-750cc range, if you call RC injectors, they'll tell you the best size. Precision injectors are pretty good, but I'd stay away from Bosch and Venom, I've heard mixed stuff on those. Plus, RC makes peak and hold injectors, so you don't have to pull out your injector resistor box, they're plug and play, and you get a cool injector dyno sheet.
Hope this helps! Good luck with your car, and post some pictures and dyno sheet when you get done.
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i will go with the 750 cc RC
also the shop will tune it for free anytime i want so i will go with the aem
what about intercooler sizes? also which turbo should i use? garret? turbonetics? which sizes?
tein set up arived today some nice green set !
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Well again, it totally depends on what you're doing with the motor. How much boost, what kind of racing you're doing (if any), how reliable you want the car, etc. There are usually good books in any major bookstore that can get you started on properly sizing a turbo inducer/ex for your car, and all that stuff. You can also check out www.turbomustangs.com/turbotech/main.htm and Turbocharger FAQ turbocharging exhaust, or similar sites (I find a lot of the V8 info ends up being pretty pertinent to our cars, and the diesel sites have great turbo info, although of course V8s and diesels have very different turbo needs). For our motor size, a Garrett T3-Super 60
T3 turbine trim and a .63/.82 housing is probably about where you'd want to start.
Both Garrett and Turbonetics make good turbochargers, just be sure you get a good waste gate and blow off valve, as shady Taiwanese waste gates have led to many a pressure-spike driven turbo failure.
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i will go with the 750 cc RC
also the shop will tune it for free anytime i want so i will go with the aem
what about intercooler sizes? also which turbo should i use? garret? turbonetics? which sizes?
tein set up arived today some nice green set !
The FI FAQ has a lot of this info in it for you to read.
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