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Old 02-28-2003, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dyno slip on DRAG 4 kit!

Here is my DRAG 4 dyno slip, the car has the following:

9.6 compression
Automatic transmission
DRAG4 setup
VAFC - tuned
Cam Gears - left stock
Greddy ProfecB - tuned

Not bad if you ask me at 7-8 psi on an auto with 9.6 compression

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Old 02-28-2003, 09:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The curves look spiky, indicative of a timing issue. What are you using for boost timing control??? No a/f graph? You are losing quite a bit at the vtec crossover.

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nothing with timing right now. I'm not going for much more power then that. But I do have Cam Gears and a J&S Safeguard.
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nothing with timing right now.
Dude, you should not be boosting 8 psi with stock timing. Those spikes in your curve are very likely due to detonation. Even a built motor can be toasted.
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what would you rec. timing wise?
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The only way to say is to get a product like an MSD BTM and hit the dyno again and get and tune a A/F line. You really do want to retard the timing back a bit or else you motor might blow up prematurely. If anything, get something that will retard your timing.
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MSD BTM or J&S. A J&S would also supply knock protection.
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have a J&S just haven't had it installed. How does it reduce the timing?
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Install it before you boost again. The J&S has a boost/timing control feature that is controlled by two knobs, the "start" knob and the "rate" knob. You set the start knob to what psi you want to start retarding timing at (I suggest setting it to 0 so that it starts working as soon as there is boost). You set the rate knob to adjust how much timing per psi of boost you want. .6-.8 degrees of timing per psi would be a good start, and then monitor you J&S to see if it retards timing because of knock (detonation). It it does, then you need more timing retard.
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Wow, that's an "interesting" dynochart.

What are your AFC settings? Doesn't look "tuned" to me... heh heh

It would help if you had an A/F chart to go with it... I'm guessing it's either detonating after VTEC...or running pig rich.
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I would say the spikey chart is more of an indication that it's missing rather than detonating.
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