What are the main difference between these two turbo kits? I found information on Fmax kit for Prelude on this site: http://www.f-max.com/PreludeSys.htm
Originally posted by RedLudeII What are the main difference between these two turbo kits? I found information on Fmax kit for Prelude on this site: http://www.f-max.com/PreludeSys.htm
I owned a F-Max kit before, the turbo was a stage 3 turbonetics full ball bearing, I didn't get a chance to dyno it before i sold the kit. But the buyer dynoed his car after he put it on, and he got 277whp with the exact same setup as I had before. and it was with the Vortech FMU, STOCK CAT, of course he had some tuning done with a V-AFC. It's pretty impressive to me, I didn't even know i was making that much power... that answers all the questions why I had so much wheel spins before..
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Michael Li
-- 1997 Prelude 5 speed -- My setup
-- 1998 Silvia S14 -- SR20DET
Originally posted by mike2016 I owned a F-Max kit before, the turbo was a stage 3 turbonetics full ball bearing, I didn't get a chance to dyno it before i sold the kit. But the buyer dynoed his car after he put it on, and he got 277whp with the exact same setup as I had before. and it was with the Vortech FMU, STOCK CAT, of course he had some tuning done with a V-AFC. It's pretty impressive to me, I didn't even know i was making that much power... that answers all the questions why I had so much wheel spins before..
haha, sweeeet...
btw, what were you or the guy you sold the kit to running in the 1/4 mile??? Also, was it hard to control the wheel spin, or was it ok once you were used to the power?
btw, what were you or the guy you sold the kit to running in the 1/4 mile??? Also, was it hard to control the wheel spin, or was it ok once you were used to the power?
Oh, and what psi were you running?
Thanks!
I ran a 14.3 at Palmdale, it's not all that impressive but I had A LOT of wheelspins in 1st and 2nd gear, there was no way to control the traction in 1st and 2nd, as soon as you floor the gas, the wheel spins right away... trap speed was 101mph... maybe my tires sucked...
it was on some falken tires on stock rims. and I was running at 7psi of boost.
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Michael Li
-- 1997 Prelude 5 speed -- My setup
-- 1998 Silvia S14 -- SR20DET
I ran a 14.3 at Palmdale, it's not all that impressive but I had A LOT of wheelspins in 1st and 2nd gear, there was no way to control the traction in 1st and 2nd, as soon as you floor the gas, the wheel spins right away... trap speed was 101mph... maybe my tires sucked...
it was on some falken tires on stock rims. and I was running at 7psi of boost.
Cool... thanks for the reply. I think with better tires, and probably 18" rims (with that much power, why not) you would have had less wheel spin and a much better eta.
Originally posted by mr-scarface You should be in low 13's if you got 277whp, dont you guys agree?
Like Mike2016 said, he had a lot of wheel spin. With that kind of power, traction plays a huge role. With suitable tires, maybe an LSD, and good driving of course... I think you should see 12's with 277whp. There are other necessary mods like a stronger clutch/pressure plate, etc., basic stuff which he probably had.
This all in my humble opinion, of course.
By the way, LUDED1 has JRSC and several other mods (ignition, I/H/E, clutch, the basics, etc.) and he ran 13.6 with street tires. I'm guessing his setup is putting out somewhere in the neighborhood of 230-240whp. He may have posted a dyno somewhere, I'm not sure.
Anyway, my stock SH spins a lot when launching (because I haven't perfected my launch for one thing)... I can only imagine what the wheel spin is like with another 100whp.
277 hp on CLOSED LOOP? interesting, get that dynos canned from that guy if you can!
It was on OPEN LOOP. but it's with stock cat.
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wait, who has 277whp? on what kind of kit? where's the dyno?
I sold the kit to a guy in Florida... it was pretty much a custom kit, its got :
Turbonetics stage3 ball bearing T3/T4
Turbonetics Deltagate Wastegate set at 7psi
F-max IC pipings
F-max manifold
F-max downpipe
Spearco Intercooler
Vortech FMU
MSD Fuel pump
V-AFC with tuning
I will try to get a dyno sheet scanned from him... i know there's another guy in Socal with a Drag2 kit dynoed at about 270WHp, it's all about tuning... but yea, the dyno tells all..
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Michael Li
-- 1997 Prelude 5 speed -- My setup
-- 1998 Silvia S14 -- SR20DET
I sold the kit to a guy in Florida... it was pretty much a custom kit, its got :
Turbonetics stage3 ball bearing T3/T4
Turbonetics Deltagate Wastegate set at 7psi
F-max IC pipings
F-max manifold
F-max downpipe
Spearco Intercooler
Vortech FMU
MSD Fuel pump
V-AFC with tuning
I will try to get a dyno sheet scanned from him... i know there's another guy in Socal with a Drag2 kit dynoed at about 270WHp, it's all about tuning... but yea, the dyno tells all.. [/b]
so you had the fmax manifold configured for openloop design. that's cool, do you have pics of how you changed it up? was it easy to do/cost..
so you had the fmax manifold configured for openloop design. that's cool, do you have pics of how you changed it up? was it easy to do/cost..
You don't have to modify the manifold for open/closed loop, you just need to cut the wastegate pipe on the downpipe and weld it, and leave the wastegate open. it shouldn't cost more than 50 bucks.
You don't have to modify the manifold for open/closed loop, you just need to cut the wastegate pipe on the downpipe and weld it, and leave the wastegate open. it shouldn't cost more than 50 bucks.
It's more complex if you want to do it properly and run the dump tube out of the engine. With just running the wastegate exhaust port open your engine bay is going to be black and crappy in no time.
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Mark Higgins
Toronto Prelude Club www.hondaprelude.to
The wastegate exhaust port comes out very close to the downpipe. In closed loop they are connected with an annoying slip joint that F-Max provides. If you cut that joint off and weld it closed there's not alot of space between the exhuast port on the wastegate and the downpipe. It's hard to make a dump tube that will fit around that enclosed space.
If I had a picture it would be much clearer. If you just weld off the connection, it's easy. Making a dump tube is harder.
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Mark Higgins
Toronto Prelude Club www.hondaprelude.to
