Someone please chime in. I'm getting my turbo block tuned on Friday. Probably breaking it in on the dyno. My question is Boost or NO boost during tune/breakin?
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Ok, so i've got 2 opinions.
the first i'll give, is the retarded one i got from Trini Auto Customs----i dont trust their engine building. They said, install the thing, get everything hooked up and running, simple tune so its not running rough...and then just let it run.........for a full 24 hrs......with the radiator hooked up 2 a hose....THEN change the fluid and ur pretty much just gonna follow it with 500 miles of light driving.
OK that i dunno is like WEIRD, TRINI stands for Trinidad, so yeah mayB thats how they do it there.
The second----actually i completely 4get what it was.....From Twan at GRD (Genesis Racing Division)........all i recall is the most basic use NON-synthetic oil blah blah then change it out......dang wutha heck was it......
Anyways, cmon where r the REAL engine builders at?
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ERL, who built my block, said to turn it on, make sure you have oil pressure, let it warm up to operating temp., then drain the oil, change the filter, then tune immediately. However, I never got a straight answer on whether or not to break it in/tune it w/ boost. Most of the people that I ask say to break it in with boost, just wanted some more opinions. I believe one of the most important matters during break-in besides watching vitals (AFR, Oil Press, Temp...) is to make sure that the engine is feeling load, such as a good range of varying accelleration/rpm while the car is in motion, to get the rings to seat against the cylinder walls.
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thats kinda ,what I heard what to do to break in the motor.. but I need a straight answer also
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ERL, who built my block, said to turn it on, make sure you have oil pressure, let it warm up to operating temp., then drain the oil, change the filter, then tune immediately. However, I never got a straight answer on whether or not to break it in/tune it w/ boost. Most of the people that I ask say to break it in with boost, just wanted some more opinions. I believe one of the most important matters during break-in besides watching vitals (AFR, Oil Press, Temp...) is to make sure that the engine is feeling load, such as a good range of varying accelleration/rpm while the car is in motion, to get the rings to seat against the cylinder walls.
that sounds pretty good...and i already knew that u should use a non-syn oil for the break-in because the rings seal better... So im thinking with my high HP h22 setup that i wont be able to go full throttle right after i get the motor running b/c it will have no tune watsoever and not run to its full capabilities...am i right? I think breaking it in on a dyno is a better decision, right? You guys think its worth taking off the oil pan for the initial oil change to get all the debris/metal shavings out there?
I dunno bout taking the oil pan off, I'm sure a decent oil change and engine purge would be good enough. Also, i dunno this is just my thinking but one of those magnetic drain plugs sounds pretty good too.
By the way, there was a post on here last year, some guy had this crazy idea, that the BEST way 2 break in a car, was to rev it, REALLY HIGH, like REDLINE it for like 30 seconds a couple times. Just so wacko-ness. There were couple people on here that actually agreed with him....
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Pussys ... a motor isnt as fragile as you think. Break it in with low boost on or off the dyno. Increase boost a couple hundred miles after. Thats how I did it. 500 miles later we raised boost. No problems ever. Daily Driven at 300+WHP
hey bro
that's what I was thinking about doing just run it with the turbo set on very low boost... and I was alson thinking that since I have an hondata I was going to have the boost cut at 2psi so I really don't boost untill the 500miles was reach..you guys think that's a good idea?
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Pussys ... a motor isnt as fragile as you think. Break it in with low boost on or off the dyno. Increase boost a couple hundred miles after. Thats how I did it. 500 miles later we raised boost. No problems ever. Daily Driven at 300+WHP
hey bro
that's what I was thinking about doing just run it with the turbo set on very low boost... and I was alson thinking that since I have an hondata I was going to have the boost cut at 2psi so I really don't boost untill the 500miles was reach..you guys think that's a good idea?
whatever boost you set it on, you need to beat the piss out of the motor while tuning it, whether it be on the dyno or on the streets.
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The only thing you need to do when you break in a motor is go through the ENTIRE RPM range in order to seat the rings properly. Dont drive like a grandma for the first 500 or so miles, get out there and take it through the RPM range.
Why do you think when you test drive a new car you can smash on it? Does it destroy the car? No, of course not. The dealer still sells them and if it did every dealer would have huge warranty motor issues.
i was told to put about 2000 miles on the car on low boost and a safe tune.i drove my car very chill for the 2000 then went to the dyno for the get down .made me feel alot better about boosting the new motor.and i never reved the motor past 5500 rpm while i was in the break in period.
i would say its a myth but their is safer ways to break it in . pretty much try to take it easy for a couple thousand miles and thats about all you can do .then go high boost......
^^^ Then why dont brand new, factory boosted cars have thousands of warranty claims because some one who bought them gets out and smashes on it the day they buy it?
Safe break in is a myth. motors arent that fragile.
^^^ Then why dont brand new, factory boosted cars have thousands of warranty claims because some one who bought them gets out and smashes on it the day they buy it?
Safe break in is a myth. motors arent that fragile.
i agree.... listen dont set your boost hight keep it low... get a descent basemap for low boost. drive it around ... pull over every once and a while ... in neutral and slowly rev it up a few times...
then... hit a little boost .. dont rev it out the first couple of times but... get on it. then make sure no leaks, knocks, weird noises... go get tuned. enjoy your 5g + motor and turboed lude. im in the same boat w/ my new motor.
I am speaking from personal experience from my 550whp 400tq ITR... I broke the motor in on the dyno, with a moderate load(with boost). After about 20 minutes of running it we checked the compression to get base figures, ran it under a moderate load again checked the compression to make sure it stabilized (rings seated) then went ballz to the wall on the tuning. No issues.
I am speaking from personal experience from my 550whp 400tq ITR... I broke the motor in on the dyno, with a moderate load(with boost). After about 20 minutes of running it we checked the compression to get base figures, ran it under a moderate load again checked the compression to make sure it stabilized (rings seated) then went ballz to the wall on the tuning. No issues.
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