Hi, I've been reading up a lot on how to turbo my lude (1995/H22A1). Like everyone is saying, do research for over a year so I've done that time. I've come to the conclusion that it is quite expensive to do it 'right' (resleeve/pistons/rods/head/ems/brakes/tune). My original goal wasn't to have a 10 second car, just wanted more torque and be able to hang with them sleepers with engine swaps. I was hoping I wouldn't have to rebuild my engine to meet this goal of around 250-275whp but then what's the point of boosting this low when I'm going to put a couple G's in to doing it. I currently have simple mods, I/H/E with a chipped ecu and it chirps on 2nd gear so I'm somewhat satisfied with the performance. I was piecing together a turbo setup slowly while researching the right parts for my needs but I'm wondering if it's worth it now. I have been thinking of buying a new S2000 instead and perhaps selling the lude. Having two cars isn't economical, especially for a single bachelor like me. If I can't boost the stock engine for a reliable daily driver then perhaps I should sell it to someone who can do it 'right' and go with the S2000. So I guess my question is if it's possible or worth the trouble to boost a stock internal lude and still have a reliable daily driver? I've seen the thread of who's blown their engines due to boost and I don't want to be on that list. I currently have over 290,000kms on this original engine and just did the timing belt and waterpump and paint job (black). I don't really want to sell her but I know if I get the S2000 then she will just end up sitting. I have spent about 4 years with her now and she has never let me down but perhaps it is time to move onto something newer. So what are your opinions, boost the stock 95 lude or move onto the S2k? I'll try posting some pics this weekend, just got the zymol carbon wax kit. I guess I haven't really introduced myself here yet but I'll get around to it.
i cant tell if its a win or a loss. s2k cost more than a 95lude so the extra money you would be putting in to get the s2k, wouldnt it even out by doing the lude right? wuts your opinion on that? so whether u get the s2k or do it right with the lude, wouldnt it come out to the same cost?
I'd get the s2000 instead. a well built turbo prelude will cost as much as a decent AP1 when you're done, but will be worth less than what you paid for it stock.
by the way my stock prelude chirps 2nd too.
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i would part out the lude, stay w/ the h22, buy a crx/hatch shell and put the h22 in it... then throw the h22 tranny out and replace it w/ a b series and then boost that hahaha thas just my .02
I've decided to keep the prelude. I wouldn't get what I want for it anyways, damn economy making everyone into cheap asses. I get stopped a lot with people offering to buy my prelude, but when I tell them the price, the discussion ends. Just because it's a honda, doesn't mean it's cheap. $2k will only get you the engine and tranny, if even that, so why do these people continue to insult me. Turbo, here I come. If she blows, then S2k.
I was wondering if an oil cooler is necessary for a turbo setup and which is a good one to get, such as MFactory? I'm also wondering about the turbo timer and how it will work with my alarm system. Say I take out my key from the ignition and walk away from the car while the turbo timer is keeping my engine in idle, will I still be able to turn on my alarm while this is happening or will my alarm will go off from the vibration sensor?
Anyone know if a new S2K or 6th gen prelude will be in stores in the near future? I'm hoping for either a 4 seater S2k or a redesigned prelude.
I just want to chime in that I think you're missing a very important fact with your question of Prelude versus S2000. The parts for the S2000 are going to be twice as expensive as those for the Prelude. As a rule of thumb, the higher the initial sales price of a car, the higher the parts are to mod that particular car. This is why Civics are so popular becuase the price of their parts are low. Although the prices for S2000's and NSX's are falling into a budget that some people will consider buying for a tuner car, the price for their aftermarket parts are still insane.
Not to mention their are other little additional fees you'll be paying like a car payment and higher insurance on your newer, more expensive vehicle.
I also just want to ask if you've ever done any extensive modifications to your car before? I/H/E are basic mods that we all do to learn about the car, but you'll be in for a rude awakening just like I was if you think you can turbo the car and have it behave just like stock. If you're a person who is so in love with their car, you will suffer through the newfound discrepencies with your head held high. But I guarantee if you're not strong of heart the first couple of problems you come across with a turbo setup are going to make you question giving up.
The route you are ready to take is a route that many of us have took before, just know that you don't always hear the bad sides of builds, but every tuner has them. Read my post in "member's rides/ the best prelude in the world" for a real-life situation that involves what happens when you transform from reliable everyday transportation to full prepped engine and F/I, my experiences I write about are true to life and can show you the ugly side of a build. If you are indeed a single bachelor without a second car, I'd think twice. I don't know how I made it this long without a second car and living 2000 miles away from my family. All I can say is I've got a couple of really patient and understanding friends. I hope you do too.
I think the answer is quite simple. If you have to ask, than i'd say no to boost. And if you are trying to be economical lean away from the s2k, sure isn't the greatest DD, especially with winter quickly approaching.
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They're also not gonna bring out any 6th gen. Prelude as much as we'd all like to see it happen. The Accord Coupe is basically the new "Prelude" especially when they give it different sheetmetal from the Sedan, lots of sporty options and a huge powerplant to satisfy the power hungry.
Oh and a factory strut tower bar too? Can anyone say "Accord Type S" haha
I moved here to South Carolina from Ontario Canada and to me, when you don't have to switch to winter tires means I'm somewhere warm. I think having an S2k here all year round is extacy. No more winter beaters, no more salt, sand, snow and ice to worry about. I am eagerly waiting for the new S2k to come out before I buy one. Also there is no emissions testing in SC. Straight pipe biatches! Now if I was back in Canada, I would be failing the e-test right about now and buying some blizzaks on a 4wd scoobie doo. Anyone know if there is any truth to this new S2k in the link below. I hope it's a 4 seater, and what are these new hight tech optics they are talking about. Is HID being replaced? Another retrofit coming?
I read the sucessor to the S2000 would use a longitudinal mounted K20 version (with 6 speed) which means it would be RWD. I think it's going to be smaller but still be offered with a convertible top, but supposedly have a lower sticker price than the purpose built S2000.
im also in south carolina and yea there isnt any emissions. at the moment im running straight headers till i get a new setup. and yea lol there aint gonna be any snow maybe once or twice out the whole year and normally its like 3 inches or so. about the new s2000, idk exactly but ive been hearing rumors from a car builder that says they are going to convert it to FWD because it's a honda. idk if its true or not but thats what he said.
It just wouldn't make sense for the predecessor to the S2000 to be a FWD, Honda has evolved to the point where they've weeded out all of their redundant cars it seems. Some examples include the Prelude/Accord Coupe and RSX/Civic Si and even to a certain extent dropped the del sol and crx due to a better demand on lower-packaged civics. I think the days of low-production niche vehicles is coming to an end, especially in Honda and the only way any company can truly justify these vehicles at all is if they can reach into their universal parts bin (not just for GM anymore!) and save costs on building them so they don't have to start from the ground up.
Unfortunately we've had to RIP many of our beloved Hondas that have sparked our imagination of this wonderful company...
RIP NSX
RIP S2000
RIP Prelude
RIP CRX
RIP Integra/RSX
RIP Vigor (wait... no, good riddance 5 cylinder!)
But don't give me any crap about how the NSX and S2000 will be back, all companies have to kill off their flagships every now and then to make up for sagging sales and to revitalize the market when they're reintroduced! *coughCamarocough*
But don't give me any crap about how the NSX and S2000 will be back, all companies have to kill off their flagships every now and then to make up for sagging sales and to revitalize the market when they're reintroduced! *coughCamarocough*
Yeah, I know, I meant to make that one line read "the NSX and S2000 will be back, but every now and then car manufacturers have to kill off their flagships yada yada yada" and cite the camaro as a perfect example.
Hopefully they'll never bring back Oldsmobile though
Although the prices for S2000's and NSX's are falling into a budget that some people will consider buying for a tuner car, the price for their aftermarket parts are still insane.
S2K are still in peoples price range because you can finance but for a similar priced 91' $30K NSX you have to buy it in cash. If you want to finance an NSX you need to jump to a 1999+ which just increaed your price to $50K. Try and find any bank that will finance a car 10+ years old and you win a cookie.
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They're also not gonna bring out any 6th gen. The Accord Coupe is basically the new "Prelude" especially when they give it different sheetmetal from the Sedan, lots of sporty options and a huge powerplant to satisfy the power hungry.
Exactly. If you want a 6th gen then buy a V6 accord coupe.
2010 NSX is going to easily be in the 120K+ range.
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hahaha thas just my .02
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