jimnissan

Im trying to see what everyone thinks is a better cams skunk2 stage 2 or crower stage 2

AllMotorBB6

what do you need turbo cams for?

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Artifex

Is this for FI? If you really are FI, I would say neither.

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jonbar87

evans tuning forums :: View topic - Dyno comparison: Skunk2 Pro 1's vs CTR camshafts

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Is THIS really the "change" everyone was hoping for? I think not...

1997 Base, H22A, 5 Spd w/Leather.
JRSC - 9psi
215whp, 189wtq with clutch slipping
Exedy Stage 1 Clutch (worthless)
Auto>Manual Tensioner Conv.
Precision 525cc High Impedance Injectors
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Accord Crank Pulley
K&N drop in filter
Kamikaze Header with 2.5" collector
Mandrel Bent 3" Kteller piping

Ktulu990

S2 tuner1's or Pro1's

The tuner1's are easier on the drive train and still good gains. These should be used if you have a smaller turbo than gt35r or not a long runner mani.

I went with the Pro1's.

AllMotorBB6

whats the point in using aftermarket cams when our motors dont need them with boost?

Roger went low 10's with type S cams
Tommy went low 10's with stock cams

less is more IMO

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UAludes

Yea i hear the cams the lude's have are perfectly fine. No need for cams it's optional. But Aem tru timing cam gears actaully help with turbos.

Ktulu990

That doesn't really make sense to me.

You could spend $500-600 and get 40-60whp and lower psi. With the amount of $$$ that goes into these setups that is a great payoff IMO...

It can and has been done but these cams are proven over and over again. If you are trying to max out your setup these are great value... again just my opinion.

Artifex

The cams you posted are for B-series. I know of no cams for the H-series that I have seen an actual dyno plot proving they make more than stock cams.

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jimnissan

thanks for all the heads up,

I have been in contact with Evans-tuning He suggested against cams.

Here is his quote

“Cam gears do almost nothing for power gains if you have stock cams. I would not recommend doing cams on a h22a, especially if you have a log manifold. You'll lose power over OEM cams. "Turbo" cams just don’t work. They cut down the duration, which kills top end power on a Honda engine.”

He is not the only tuner or builder who suggested against cams. I contact several different ones that all came up with basicly the same advise. No cams on H22 unless you trying to make 600-700+ HP. This is not my goal so no cams for me, I'm however going to get cam gears even if they are not adjusted.

Ktulu990

I bought my cams bc Jeff Evan's suggested it... But I also have a long runner mani and am shooting for 650+whp.