Best Bolt on Turbo Kit??? - Honda Prelude Forum

STEVE POOLE · 12-08-2005, 07:47 PM

I gave up on the supercharger idea and I am getting ready to by a bolt on turbo kit. Any certain one to consider or stay away from? Any chance Edelbrock will come out with a H22 kit? That is a nice kit for the B series. What kind of horsepower gains should I look for? Going with stock compression for now, may build the motor later. On race fuel/pump gas what kind of boost should the car have on stock compression?

sharkcohen · 12-09-2005, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by STEVE POOLE

What kind of horsepower gains should I look for?

That's really something you need to be asking yourself. How much power do you want?

You can make 300 whp safely on a stock block provided the management and tuning are good, possibly more. I highly recommend going with Neptune.

Keep in mind, power is also dependent on the components you choose. The Greddy kit is probably the best bolt on kit fitment wise, but the turbo is a bit small for the H22 AND the exhaust outlet on the exhaust turbine is ridiculously small, hampering power and limiting you to about 250 whp at best. You might want to see leptolude's recent post on his Full Race kit with Neptune, it's just a few threads down.

crl3vtec · 12-09-2005, 03:43 PM

well, my 2 cents,

Drag gen 4 kit. would get close to 250.. but change over to Neptune and should be able to hit 300. only prob is turbo is small. (t03/t04=B) old school design turbo to. but.. there ya go. look to spend 4 g's. Highly recommend just starting by having the motor built. will bbe worth it

keahistight · 12-09-2005, 08:32 PM

I have tried the Greddy kit on an unbuilt and built motor running on the best stand alone engine management system (IMO) AEM PEMS. I have pushed the Greddy kit as far as it will ever go on larger injectors. The Greddy kit WILL NOT make 250 wheels. I tapped out at 238. Turbo is too small. If power is your goal go another way. If drivability and fitment are your goal the Greddy kit is awesome.

sharkcohen · 12-09-2005, 09:30 PM

I think there was someone on here a few years ago making 250 whp with the Greddy kit and hondata. I'll see if I can verify that with a search.

Rich_A · 12-10-2005, 07:23 AM

what about other kits, like the many on turbo-kits website. any good?

blk97ludeSH · 12-10-2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkcohen

I think there was someone on here a few years ago making 250 whp with the Greddy kit and hondata. I'll see if I can verify that with a search.

Tyson has made 250 to the wheels on the greddy kit! i was there to personally verify that. his sn is akio54 or just akio haha i forgot he parted his car so I doubt that he goes on still.

keahistight · 12-10-2005, 08:47 AM

as for the 250 on a Greddy ... my 238 was on a dynapak so that is 250 dead on on a dynajet. 250 is going to be topps on that kit. Keep in mind that is after ALTERING the kit by running larger injectors and an aftermarket programable ECU

sharkcohen · 12-10-2005, 09:43 AM

Yup, you won't make 250 out of the box with the Greddy kit, you'll need more parts.

One thing to keep in mind is that NONE of the kits come with sufficient management.

TwizT · 12-10-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by keahistight

as for the 250 on a Greddy ... my 238 was on a dynapak so that is 250 dead on on a dynajet.

A little off topic, but I thought Dynapacks read 6-8 % higher than Dynojets

Aren't Dynapacks measured at the hub while Dynojets are measured at the wheels/tires ?

JrSr2003 · 12-10-2005, 02:22 PM

Why don't you just reserch a little more and build your own kit?? Sure it's a little more work but this way you can custumize your kit to your needs, and you'll probably end up saving a little money... Just my 2 cents... Good luck!!!

STEVE POOLE · 12-11-2005, 04:00 PM

Thanks for the insite.Anyone had any luck out of the Turbonetics kit? Right now my car has made 200whp on dyno. I am tring to get around 300hp or close to that. Should that be reachable? Preludes seem to be a neverending money pit!!! Should have bought a Supra!!

Sonik_Fury · 12-12-2005, 01:08 AM

Have you priced parts for a supra. You can only go as fast as your pockets are deep

nuro · 12-12-2005, 02:38 AM

full race?

STEVE POOLE · 12-14-2005, 07:59 PM

For the money I have in this Prelude I should have bought a Supra (Toyota that is). Boost controller and exhaust = high 11'2 low 12's. My uncle just installed a Greddy 78 single (believe that is a 68mm) with full fuel system and is running upper mid 10's at around 134mph or so. Love to have my lude run like that.
I am wanting to keep my lude streetable for the most part. It will still be a everyday driver for the most part. What would it take to get a lude into the low 12's. Don't say lots of money.

nuro · 12-15-2005, 03:46 AM

a fully rebuilt engine and a bar of boost. ive been working on it for a long time now.

all that said, i wouldnt want a supra instead. have you driven one? they're not exactly fun. but its a question of taste

STEVE POOLE · 12-15-2005, 11:24 AM

I've have drove my unc's at the track a few passesand around town. Its not a bad riding car to say the least. Car has some real ass though, i still lean towards the lude and its styling. hard to beat. im starting to get some smoke under power now though so i need to pull the motor and do something about the rings. i'll go ahead and put the skunk 2 valves and springs in while im at it. already have the stage one cams. valve seats are starting to seep. i'm really thinking serious and im getting a turbo though i have heard that you should sleeve the block for precautionary reasons. so i am looking to spend a whole lot more money in the car than i had first intended. aint that how it always goes!

preludejtstyle · 12-15-2005, 11:56 AM

For the most Power buy the drag kit and TUNE TUNE TUNE. At least thats what ive read.

everythingzen · 12-15-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by STEVE POOLE

Thanks for the insite.Anyone had any luck out of the Turbonetics kit? Right now my car has made 200whp on dyno. I am tring to get around 300hp or close to that. Should that be reachable? Preludes seem to be a neverending money pit!!! Should have bought a Supra!!

what have you done so far to make 200whp?

leptolude · 12-15-2005, 03:13 PM

Full Race is the best engineered kit availible, but you'll have to deal with the loss of AC... you can hit 300 no problem with it

keahistight · 12-15-2005, 09:28 PM

supras are not as fun to drive IMO. I like the size of our cars. If you want to step it up to a larger sport car I would still take a vet.

STEVE POOLE · 12-18-2005, 06:45 PM

Last dyno I was at 195whp. So far I have the following MODS......
DC header
electric cut out (precat) - for sale if anyone is interested
AEM pulleys
VAFC tuned
AEM V2
skunk2 stage 1 cams
ordered a thermal catback and random tech high flow cat but it has not came in yet.

h22 bb6 · 12-18-2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by STEVE POOLE

Last dyno I was at 195whp. So far I have the following MODS......
DC header
electric cut out (precat) - for sale if anyone is interested
AEM pulleys
VAFC tuned
AEM V2
skunk2 stage 1 cams
ordered a thermal catback and random tech high flow cat but it has not came in yet.

I find it very difficult to believe that with just those mods you hit 195whp. You don't even have all the bolt-ons done yet. I can see cams giving you some good gains if tuned properly, but 200whp, up to now, has been very difficult to hit N/A.

You have the dynbo printout? What kind of dyno was it?

GaRn · 12-19-2005, 05:38 PM

PeakBoost turbo kits would wipe the floor with any of these kits, and they are just as cheap.. and since you don't wanna use any of the ****ty management that comes with greddy/whatever else you get to supply your own!

the main thing I like is the lifetime warranty on the manifold, considering its 8 guage tig welded 304 ss

I want a kit.

2keggie · 01-06-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keahistight

as for the 250 on a Greddy ... my 238 was on a dynapak so that is 250 dead on on a dynajet. 250 is going to be topps on that kit. Keep in mind that is after ALTERING the kit by running larger injectors and an aftermarket programable ECU

how much boost were you running?

keahistight · 01-07-2006, 09:11 AM

as much as the turbo would put out. When I jumped from 14 pounds to 18 pounds I only gained like 1 WHP. At the upper range it is VERY inefficient.

NterCooled · 01-07-2006, 09:18 AM

I had 291 whp with my rev hard kit and the only reason I took the kit off is because I blew the turbo because I installed it