I was running 14.6 with street tires and i started a thread awhile back about drag slicks. i really wanted to get these on by this past CMI race but i wasnt able to because of school, bills, and other time constraints. I did research and talked with the guys over at bogart a few times. FYI....Bogarts will fit on the 5th gens with a small spacer.
The night before the race i picked up some 15" kosei K1s with nitto (i HATE nittos) 555rs....i made it to to the low 14s....with no tire hop at all..... tires were still spinning thru 1st and second tho....but im glad i actually put more of the power to the ground. my trap speeds increased to 102+. so overall im happier. just not happy.
some M&H slicks will be going on the koseis for the next event. as well as a new engine...*crosses fingers* if i stop being lazy and actually finish it....i have everything here just need to spend time putting it together. we just picked up another project car too....bleh...its really hard to turn down great opportunities even if they do put more burden on you. luckily im not in summer school!
Andrew and Ian.......ive actually ordered a few set of slicks from John@ M&H recently for our other cars and we met up and talked a lot at the CMI race event.....so were working on something for my car. you guys were both HUGE helps to me in the previous thread. i just wanted to say thanks again!
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Last edited by dvsracergirl : 07-05-2004 at 01:36 PM.
Originally posted by dvsracergirl thanks im hoping to hit more than high 13's i would really like to drop more into the lower end of the 13s.... i just need to work on my 60ft.
it gets frustrating because my friends HB with an h22 is pulling slower trap speeds and my R/Ts are so much better....but his 60ft is 2x better.
what 60ft times are you getting?
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I'm curious to know the size on the kosei k1 wheels you have, are they 15x7's? do you know how much they weigh, i'm looking for some wheels for my slicks, i'm currently using altima steel wheels and using a 22x8x15 slick. I think with the Nitto555's you should be somehwere in the 2.1-2.2 60' times.
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Flip, yeah that was me...ill be at all the CMIs this year...and thanks for the compliment. were you the black 4th gen there that day racing?? i was eyeing that one .
CaliH22a: Im not sure of the exact size of the rim....im guessing they are the 15x7 considering i have about a 3 sheets of paper gap between the rim and my calipers. They were on an ITR. ITR rims will fit great too...i was actually looking to find a set of those...but came across these. I dont know the weight. but they are extremly light. Sorry i dont have more details as of right now....basically my bf went to SF to pick these up at 11pm the night before CMI while i was working on my motor. If youre interested i can weigh and check the exact size for you later.
The nittos are ok...thats the extent of it. I would never spend money on Nittos....but they came with the rims. M&H slicks will be going on for the next CMI. so if my 60' doesnt drop considerably with those i will be lost.
street tires=MAJOR wheel hop---noooo traction.
street slicks=wheel sping thru all gears. even heated up. little traction.
drag slicks=*crosses fingers*
PS...any advice/suggestions are appreciated.
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Last edited by dvsracergirl : 07-07-2004 at 03:17 PM.
okie...will do...im trying to avoid spending anymore money than i already have....plus i hate the feel motor mounts give...but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Even though you're frustrated with your 60' times, you gotta remember that the more power you put down to the ground, the harder it is to gain traction.
I took a ride with alphajesse tonight. Wanted to see how it felt with the ES motor mount inserts. ride is nice....but ill have to put my balance shaft back on. im thinking about going that route. it might just cure the other problem im having with lag.
Thanks again jesse for tonight. Helped a lot.
im still open to ideas too....so if you have any let me know!
so the 60' times you get with the Nitto drag radials is 2.3-2.4 60'? That's not good at all. How are you launching? you should easily be cutting 2.2 60's all day and 2.1 60's at best. 2.1's being more realistic since they are drag radials. Do the tires break up when you spray?
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yeah the tires break up....i tried heating them up a lil more on my last pass and thats when i hit the 2.3....maybe i just have a serious issue with nittos and im not confident on their performance so im holding back a little? I dunno.
20psi is too low.
Get a pyrometer, and check the middle and edges of the tread- I guarantee that the middle is still (relativeley) cold from not making contact.
Radials don't do well with really low tire pressure because the sidewalls are so stiff compared to bias-ply tires.
I'd do 25-30 psi minimum with those tires.
I was pulling cosistent 2.2xx 60' times on my 2000 SH with just I/E/P, and some 205/50r15 Kumho Ecsta MX tires on konig hole's (~10lbs). With my new ACT HDSS / ACT ProLite flywheel, and my street tires (225/50r15 Yoko AVS ES100's) I'm going to go for a 2.0 60'. I already trap 100mph on the juice so mid 13's aren't out of the question.
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your 60 ft times should be much better, i was getting consistent 2.2s and 2.1s with just plain old street tires, not even decent ones....with drag radials at the battle of the imports, mind you they had no real tread left and were kinds hard...but i tried them anyways, and cut a 2.0 60 ft time...with brand new radials i could easily cut a 1.9...although most likely high 1.9....ive found my biggest advantage when launching is to do a 5.5 or so slip, however, if you have an apexi VAFC youll get much better times off the line, and it has nothing to do with its tuning...i sold mine but im getting another one, because when your staged and rev up to your desired launch rpm, it kicks the car onto the high cam right there, thus if you launch righ your rpms never dip, and you come off the line right in your powerband.....since ive gotten rid of my VAFC, my 60s average 2.3..although i can hit 2.2s...i never realized how much it helps coming off the line...this is just an idea for you though, and what worked so well for me...im hoping to hit a 13.5 this fall, im moving to gainesville and getting new radials, wont do slicks till i upgrade my clutch...i wanna see how deep into the 13s my 100-102 traps will get me...peace
the only time speedworld uses VHT is for the "big" cars, by the time i get there some idiot has driven through the waterbox in hos stationwagon just to do a burnout...and to leave water on the staging line......lucky me....i cant wait to go to gainesville...where they run the gatornationals...no more bumpy 330ft of track...lol...on a side notr, the vafc makes a remakable differance in your launch....ill swear by it
you guys were both HUGE helps to me in the previous thread. i just wanted to say thanks again! 
i would really like to drop more into the lower end of the 13s.... i just need to work on my 60ft. 
