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Old 08-16-2004, 03:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rear sway bar + weak shocks

Would a rear sway bar, like the Progress rear sway bar shorten the life of shocks? I'm afraid that if I purchase a rear sway bar, it'll be too much for my Tokico HP shocks. I think I read somewhere that you have to match the dampening rate with the sway bar or something like that?
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Old 08-17-2004, 07:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would think a larger rear sway would prolong the life of a shock because it would limit the movement of the spring.

You many have been reading about matching SPRING rates with sway bars ---> you have options and it's each to their own (similar to high/low air pressures), more spring and less anti-sway bars -OR- less spring and more anti-sway... The both have similar effects on a car, but the best setup is a balance of the two. For example, if you get to a point where the car is skipping across the surface then your spring rates are probably too high and you are actually losing traction, in that situation you want more anti-sway and less spring...
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Ah icic. So if I'm experiencing terrible body roll because of soft springs, a rear sway bar wouldn't cause any detrimental effects...just good ol' improvement then.
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Also, a good thing to keep in mind is that a sway bar will do nothing for you under acceleration and straight line braking where the springs do. The sway bar will only add additional spring rate during cornering loads. Just another thing to throw into the equation for getting the right balance for your shocks. On one of my cars, I had a bounce problem for a while only when going under acceleration and braking straight and had to match the springs and shock settings to get rid of it.
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Doesn't the combination of stiff sway bar and soft springs lead to problems with the sway bar mounting points? I think that was mentioned in a recent post here.
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There was a problem with the 4th Gen using the Neuspeed 25mm bar ripping the mounts, not sure if it related to soft springs or not. Either way, they solved that problem by using stronger mounts, similar to what Progress provides with their bars.

EDIT: The Neuspeed bar was 28mm, not 25mm.
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There was a problem with the 4th Gen using the Neuspeed 25mm bar ripping the mounts, not sure if it related to soft springs or not. Either way, they solved that problem by using stronger mounts, similar to what Progress provides with their bars.
I thought it was the 28mm bar on the 4th gens, thus the elimination of the 28mm bar. Did the 25mm bar start ripping out of the 4th gens too??
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I thought it was the 28mm bar on the 4th gens, thus the elimination of the 28mm bar. Did the 25mm bar start ripping out of the 4th gens too??
You are correct, it was the 28mm bar. I will edit my post above...
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