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Old 10-31-2005, 03:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Brake Fluid Questions, Comments and Concerns

What type of brake fluid are you guys running?

I've heard DOT 5 is uncompatible with our brake system, although DOT 5.1 will work fine.

I'm told Motul 600 is a high maintenance type to run. Any truth to that?

Does it requires more flushing?
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I run Motul 600 in mine and flush before the season every year (april). No problems at all with it.
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Motul RBF600 here too.

One word of advice, go to the track first before you worry about brake fluid that much. You're not going to push the car that hard the first time out on the track anyway, and for street use Motul, et al is just wasted money.
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and for street use Motul, et al is just wasted money.
So you're saying motul 600 on the not worth it on the street, right? The sentence structure threw me off.

What would be a good street/autoX brake fluid?

How about a good street/autoX/track fluid, if one exist?
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It's been said Motul 600 is kinda harsh on seals. I've been running on it just fine for over a year now, but my friend in a 02 mitsu eclipse had his master cylinder go out after just 3 months of putting it in.
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I've run Valvoline SynPower without any problems sence March. I'm going to switch to ATE Super Blue my next flush.
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I've run Valvoline SynPower without any problems sence March. I'm going to switch to ATE Super Blue my next flush.
Ditto... it's so cheap too... plus with speed bleeders, I change my fluid every few months...

I wonder if it's like night and day from using ATE Super Blue or Motul 600...

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for cheap but better than oem, try the valvoline or even just regular Ford brake fluid. Its dry BP is 550*
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I put in some ATE Super Blue, and it was nice because when I flushed it, I knew when each brake line was completely bled because the fluid coming out changed color.
I chose it because I hear it's durable enough to run on the street as well.
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I put in some ATE Super Blue, and it was nice because when I flushed it, I knew when each brake line was completely bled because the fluid coming out changed color.
I chose it because I hear it's durable enough to run on the street as well.
This is what I use as well, along with the ATE Type 200. Its the same fluid, but the 200 is gold so you can tell when you flush the old blue, or old gold fluid out completely..

One thing I have learned in my track/racing time is that brake fluid care is WAY overrated. 90% of all brake problems/feel issues can be attribulted to the pads. I think I bleed brakes on my race cars once a year. Granted, you have to do the inital bleed properly without any air in the system.

Brake pads will heat cycle just like racetires. Even though a good pad may seem to last forever, the pedal feel will keep getting worse and worse as sessions go on, and people blame it on the fluid. Each time the pads heat up and cool down they develop little "stress fractures" which need to be compressed each time you hit the brakes which results in further pedal travel.

Generally, the people who don't burn off pads as quickly, seem to have the most problems with "brake feel"

Sorry about the rant...
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i also use ATE Super Blue...though Im not sure they make it anymore.
i think its a good compromise for the street and track. this is assuming you will be using it for road course driving. otherwise i would play it safe and use the valvoline for street/autox use.
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I use ATE Super Blue also. However I bleed the brakes after each event so just about any brake fluid would work.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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After having seen DR's Fluid(Motul RBF 600) after a couple track weekends, I'm inclined to make one of 2 determinations.

a) It requires flushing or at least bleeding pretty often
b) David punishes the sh!t out of his brakes

At any rate, I use ATE Super Blue as a street/autox/track fluid, and flush every 4-6 months depending on the amount of track duty the car sees. It works great for me. I had used the Synpower in the past, and it worked pretty well for my first couple track events, havent tried it since I have theoretically have gotten faster.
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ATE Super Blue here too...
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Motul 600 for almost 2 years. Only $12/bottle, so it is not really an expense, especially compared to the effort of bleeding/flushing. Plus, I can get it locally at a motorcycle shop.

I switched to it for track events (not real racing) and street diving. Between this and pads it really helped, and I haven't had any problems since. Some tiny black bits flushed out when I initially put it in, but nothing since then.

I flush every 6 months, and I do have to bleed them at the end of a day at the track. For two-day events, like at Reno-Fernley two weeks ago, I have to bleed them before I start driving on day two. Pedal firms up again nicely. Almost 400 track miles in two days and everything was working well for the 200+ mile drive home.
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motul rbf600. all my fade problems have gone away.

fluid fade problems, at least.

a lot of racers use Ford heavy duty, i believe it's a low 500 degree dry BP and it's cheap.
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